Posted by tmacfan12 on 8/6/2010 11:52:00 AM (view original):
Why do people not understand that the people at the top of baseline prestige earned their way there. You have to coach you way to the top. This game is all about the journey. And to be perfectly honest, I dont want to be playing a game where the A+ teams are Colgate, Yale, and Hampton and the D schools are Duke, Syracuse, and Kentucky.

How did they earn their way there?

So would you rather have Stanford be a power in HD based on making the Final Four in 1998, or based on what they actually have accomplished in HD?

Do you think it makes sense to arbitrarily set everyone's prestige based on the college basketball landscape in 2002? Why not 2010? Why not 1982 or 1962?

HD on Wii?

I too long for the HD of my youth, when I'd stoke the boiler on my computational engine and, just a few scant hours later, read the ticker tape as it delivered my game results. Oh, the excitement! I'd nearly jumped out of my spats when that infernal machine began clattering away.

Of course back then HD was actually Hopscotch Dynasty, as Mr Naismith had not yet invented basketball.

Posted by daalter on 8/6/2010 12:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tmacfan12 on 8/6/2010 11:52:00 AM (view original):
Why do people not understand that the people at the top of baseline prestige earned their way there. You have to coach you way to the top. This game is all about the journey. And to be perfectly honest, I dont want to be playing a game where the A+ teams are Colgate, Yale, and Hampton and the D schools are Duke, Syracuse, and Kentucky.

How did they earn their way there?

So would you rather have Stanford be a power in HD based on making the Final Four in 1998, or based on what they actually have accomplished in HD?

Do you think it makes sense to arbitrarily set everyone's prestige based on the college basketball landscape in 2002? Why not 2010? Why not 1982 or 1962?

I'm not sure why they didn't set baseline based on the year they opened the world.  I understand why they calibrate the baseline - it is a business decision, make the most popular schools the hardest to get to.

That said, after a certain point (say 20 seasons into a world?) prestige should become much more fluid and keep a baselines around only a floor - not as a ceiling.

I think sustained success for a school should be enough to modify its baseline prestige. Look at a school like Gonzaga and how they've transformed their image. If some school like IUPUI makes 10 straight NTs and reaches a few Final Fours, in real life they'd be considered a new powerhouse and kids will have spent their middle and high school years watching the team dominate, so they'd be a lot more receptive to the school down the road. Similarly, if you've got a powerhouse and that powerhouse spends 10 years being a mediocre team, pretty soon none of your recruits will ever remember the team when it was good (see the current state of Notre Dame football, a behemoth once thought to forever be THE destination for big recruits no matter what their record).

So if they really wanted to make the game more like real life, they'd make baseline prestige maleable. I'm not saying change it at the drop of a hat (I don't think high school All-Americans are lining up to play at Northern Iowa right now) but if a team earns it, they should get it.