OT: The Gameroom - Beat Colonels19 Topic

Well, if you play it there is a 50% chance of winning it regardless of how many people play. You either win or you lose.
8/8/2010 4:50 PM
Posted by arssanguinus on 8/8/2010 12:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 8/8/2010 11:27:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dacj501 on 8/8/2010 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 8/8/2010 9:56:00 AM (view original):
No I don't, because whether you like me or not shouldn't matter in this instance, you should judge me on my games and their quality, and if you don't like them/their premise...I'd honestly like to know why.
because should and do are different things. FWIW, I think most of the things you say are a tad foolish, or at least perhaps less than optimally presented, but I gave one of my two daily thumbs up to this thread after seeing it was ratings blocked, because there really was no reason other than pettiness to rate it down...but that's just me...
If this is the over-riding sentiment (which seemingly it is), then that's really a shame. There are people that literally hate me on this site for the words that I type...that's funny and mind-boggling at the same time.

Whether you like it or not, I argue harder, brasher, and more stubbornly than probably everyone here. I'm not always right, but I will admit when I'm wrong, and just so you all know, having a disagreement or a difference of opinion doesn't necessarily mean that either person is wrong...it's just a belief in a different argument (i.e. the player minute griping thread...sure I'm in the vast minority/by myself in that argument...but that's reason enough to change my argument and just accept HD the way it is just because its most loyal players say so? That's a no in my book, and while you may not agree with it, I'm sticking with/to my guns). I'm not an easy guy to argue with, especially with things I'm passionate about, and I'm not an easy win by any means. If you take up your cross against mine, you'd better be ready for a battle...that's just how I am. I think a lot of people try to fight/rage against who I am as opposed to accepting me as I am and dealing with me as such. I think things would go much smoother if people didn't kick and scream blindly everytime I remotely say something detrimental about the game.

With all that said, I think I have 7 terrific games ready to roll this football season, and I honestly wouldn't rather compete against anyone over my biggest critics and haters if you will. I seem to be in the minority in this viewpoint as well, but if you hate or think you're better than someone and a bit of a rivalry is brewing in any context, don't you want to beat them and challenge them, especially at their own game? I mean, I've had tiffs with Paul Bessire and Ryan Fowler on here, but they're probably the 2 guys that I most want to compete against because though in some respects I may not like them, I do respect them and their positions thus I want to prove that I too am "worthy" if you will and to really see who's better. I don't hate those that I argue against, I appreciate the fact that they're coming at me just as hard as I'm coming at them, thus it's more of a competition rather than it is an enemy building stage, and consequently, I think the hate for me here is a bit unjust. I understand it, but your response is to tuck your tail and run? That just doesn't sit well with me.

It's a shame really that many of you have disdain for me because we don't agree all the time/at all and/or because you don't like the way that I argue and how I stick to my guns. Strip all the arguments down, and this is really the truth of the matter. I really am only as bad as you want me to be....I give you what you want, regardless of whether you directly ask for it or not, and I think/hope that that would count for something.

Hope to see all/some of you there.

It isn't 'tucking our tails and running',. Colonels.  THat goes back to the bit about arguing like a five year old and presuming that because someone chooses to stop arguing with you it means they have conceded you are right.  Sticking to your guns is allright if its at least debatable wether you are right or not, but you stick to them long past the time you are out of bullets and shooting blanks.  And then insist that you are drawing blood with your imaginary bullets.  ANd COlonels?  You'll admit  when you are wrong?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 



 


 

As for your games. . I have seen what passes for logic in your world, and what you seem to think games should do. . . . .and based on that, I find it highly improbable that even trying out what you are pitching will be worth my time. 

Again, it all comes back to the fact that because I disagree with you, you think I'm wrong...and that simply isn't true. Certainly I may take unfavorable stances, but I believe whole-heartedly in my arguments and they are logical. You are the most frustrating person to deal with on these boards, because you choose many times to stop replying to relevant posts, long before the debate(s) are over, thus you leave them in a sort of limbo and there's no closure to the situation. That's weak, and you know what you do, don't try to turn it back to me.

For you to just assume that my games are terrible without even remotely reviewing the rules is simply pathetic....hell there's even a LOGIC section in the rules to partially explain why I do what I do.

If you truly have disdain for me, you really take these boards too seriously.
8/8/2010 5:36 PM
No. I am not assuming they are terrible; I am assuming that its not worth my time to find out if they are or not; I have other things I can do that I woudl judge to have a higher chance of enjoyment.

ANd COlonels. . I stop responding when the debate really IS over, even if you just haven't realized it yet, and I am sure I coudl get plenty of people to agree about that. . .
8/8/2010 5:44 PM
Posted by jetwildcat on 8/8/2010 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 8/8/2010 11:27:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dacj501 on 8/8/2010 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by colonels19 on 8/8/2010 9:56:00 AM (view original):
No I don't, because whether you like me or not shouldn't matter in this instance, you should judge me on my games and their quality, and if you don't like them/their premise...I'd honestly like to know why.
because should and do are different things. FWIW, I think most of the things you say are a tad foolish, or at least perhaps less than optimally presented, but I gave one of my two daily thumbs up to this thread after seeing it was ratings blocked, because there really was no reason other than pettiness to rate it down...but that's just me...
If this is the over-riding sentiment (which seemingly it is), then that's really a shame. There are people that literally hate me on this site for the words that I type...that's funny and mind-boggling at the same time.

Whether you like it or not, I argue harder, brasher, and more stubbornly than probably everyone here. I'm not always right, but I will admit when I'm wrong, and just so you all know, having a disagreement or a difference of opinion doesn't necessarily mean that either person is wrong...it's just a belief in a different argument (i.e. the player minute griping thread...sure I'm in the vast minority/by myself in that argument...but that's reason enough to change my argument and just accept HD the way it is just because its most loyal players say so? That's a no in my book, and while you may not agree with it, I'm sticking with/to my guns). I'm not an easy guy to argue with, especially with things I'm passionate about, and I'm not an easy win by any means. If you take up your cross against mine, you'd better be ready for a battle...that's just how I am. I think a lot of people try to fight/rage against who I am as opposed to accepting me as I am and dealing with me as such. I think things would go much smoother if people didn't kick and scream blindly everytime I remotely say something detrimental about the game.

With all that said, I think I have 7 terrific games ready to roll this football season, and I honestly wouldn't rather compete against anyone over my biggest critics and haters if you will. I seem to be in the minority in this viewpoint as well, but if you hate or think you're better than someone and a bit of a rivalry is brewing in any context, don't you want to beat them and challenge them, especially at their own game? I mean, I've had tiffs with Paul Bessire and Ryan Fowler on here, but they're probably the 2 guys that I most want to compete against because though in some respects I may not like them, I do respect them and their positions thus I want to prove that I too am "worthy" if you will and to really see who's better. I don't hate those that I argue against, I appreciate the fact that they're coming at me just as hard as I'm coming at them, thus it's more of a competition rather than it is an enemy building stage, and consequently, I think the hate for me here is a bit unjust. I understand it, but your response is to tuck your tail and run? That just doesn't sit well with me.

It's a shame really that many of you have disdain for me because we don't agree all the time/at all and/or because you don't like the way that I argue and how I stick to my guns. Strip all the arguments down, and this is really the truth of the matter. I really am only as bad as you want me to be....I give you what you want, regardless of whether you directly ask for it or not, and I think/hope that that would count for something.

Hope to see all/some of you there.
you ARE an easy win, you just don't realize it when you lose.

and you have a tunnel-vision mindset about how the game should run; nobody else shares your general viewpoint. thus all the arguments.

you're the most conceited poster on this forums (largely evidenced by the fact that you made a website entirely about your own sports formulations) and until that changes everyone will dislike you.
Again, just because everyone agrees with your viewpoint, doesn't mean that you win and that I lost...it just means that you agree with the more popular argument. Let's not kid ourselves too, jet...part of the reason that people argue against my viewpoints is because it's the cool, hip thing to do...how popular would you or anyone be if you agreed with the dastardly colonels19 eh? To call my viewpoints illogical is false and just because you don't agree with them, that doesn't automatically mean I'm wrong, though you all seem to misconstrue that fact. Strength in numbers isn't a valid reasoning.

Just because I'm stubborn doesn't mean that I don't have good ideas/concepts. The only way for me to gain/save face with many/all of you guys is basically to automatically agree with your viewpoints. All you want is for me to be a pushover, and because I'm not, that's why you lash out, that's why you argue just to argue, because you want me to say that you're right and I'm wrong, and I won't do that unless that's the case.

And yeah, God forbid I try to better myself in this life, so if I come up with any new ideas/concepts that might change the world of sports, I should just keep them to myself or go to bars and associate with people who won't understand what I'm getting at. There are hundreds of folks that have their own websites where they do their own rankings and what have you, so it's probably more common than you think. If you have cared enough to look at/into what I do, I'd love to hear what you think, good and bad and I'd be willing to explain anything and everything to you. Rightly or wrongly, I have too many good ideas IMO to just twiddle my thumbs and sit on them. I think BPI Sports can be a successful venture someday...again God forbid that I have capitalist dreams. If you don't like what I do, you have that right as well, but as a rule of thumb, don't judge my projects on what you "know" of my personality, judge each project on its own merit and logic.
8/8/2010 5:48 PM
Posted by daalter on 8/8/2010 4:08:00 PM (view original):
The bottom line is that when you act like a complete jackass 98% of the time, most people aren't going to want to be around your or your site. That's pretty simple. And as someone already mentioned above, when so much of what you say lacks logic and you've shown yourself to be nearly incapable of reason and compromise ... again, why would that encourage anyone to participate in a game designed and run by you? 
Again man, the proof is in the pudding. The rules are clearly mapped out, so it's very easy to someone to decide whether they like my games or not, and because you perceive me to be a jackass 98% of the time on another site, that should have nothing to do with it. I always tell you about the way(s) that I would do things, and this is how I prove it...it's my time to shine, I just need people to give my games and me a shot. You may think you know colonels19, WIS user (though your perceptions are way off) but you don't know colonels19 the owner, operator, game founder/simmer and you're only cheating yourself by not joining.

Many of you just don't like me because of how hard I argue, and you use other things that may or may not be true, to justify your reasoning.
8/8/2010 5:54 PM
Posted by furry_nipps on 8/8/2010 4:50:00 PM (view original):
Well, if you play it there is a 50% chance of winning it regardless of how many people play. You either win or you lose.
Though you guys will never let me live anything down...I will admit that that charade was ridiculous on my end and that my argument went pear shaped pretty quickly. That's one of the very few times it's happened, I was wrong and I'm sorry. But again, if you want to continually harp on things that happened 4-8 months ago, how can I ever get back on good terms with any of you. I'm not the one not being open-minded here...to many of you, colonels19 posts are losses before you read the first word.
8/8/2010 5:58 PM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 8/8/2010 5:44:00 PM (view original):
No. I am not assuming they are terrible; I am assuming that its not worth my time to find out if they are or not; I have other things I can do that I woudl judge to have a higher chance of enjoyment.

ANd COlonels. . I stop responding when the debate really IS over, even if you just haven't realized it yet, and I am sure I coudl get plenty of people to agree about that. . .
10 minutes is all it takes...thanks for being open-minded.

As for the 2nd part...no it isn't...and everyone would agree with you here because you're on the right side of the fence...nobody will admit you're being "weak" when you're arguing against me...especially not these guys...so don't kid yourself. You're probably the one guy here who can't hang with me in a debate.
8/8/2010 6:01 PM
I've never in my life seen someone lose arguments so badly time after time after time after time and be so totally unaware of it.

There's maybe 25% of me that thinks he's putting us all on, because I just can't wrap my mind around the alternative of someone being that clueless.
8/8/2010 6:10 PM
Please elaborate on the "arguments I've lost".
8/8/2010 6:15 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 8/8/2010 6:15:00 PM (view original):
Please elaborate on the "arguments I've lost".
see "arguments you've entered"
8/8/2010 6:35 PM
Most of them, Colonels.

How about you mention one you have WON?

 

8/8/2010 6:39 PM
Because that isn't the topic at hand currently. You want to say I've lost arguments...you'd better have them lined up. I love when people want to make blind claims and not follow through or follow up. I hope dbalog comes through, because I'd love to return fire.
8/8/2010 6:42 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 8/8/2010 6:15:00 PM (view original):
Please elaborate on the "arguments I've lost".
I don't dislike you due to arguments you've lost. I dislike you due to just arguments in general. Some of the things you cry about are laughable. And then you don't let them go when you've been proven wrong. After that, you try to switch it up. See "No players should complain." then shortly after "Some should complain." when people call you an idiot, and prove you're wrong while you remain arguing that you are right for several pages. 


If you relax, and throw in some useful stuff people won't have a problem with you. Even when people hated me as much/more then you, people would still agree with some of the stuff I said. You could make a new name and try to post and within a week be hated. It has nothing to do with your name. You are just annoying and don't know when to stop.
8/8/2010 6:43 PM
Elaborate...I love it when everyone likes to be vague...

FWIW, nobody's really wrong in the Player Minute Griping thread, we just have a difference of opinion. You saying I'm wrong just because nobody agrees with me, holds no weight because you're no longer discussing argument content, rather argument popularity, which is skewed from the get go anyhow. I don't want any players that were promise-less complaining about minutes, however reducing the minute expectations for each class level would probably be a step in the right direction and more of a compromise on both sides, and that's why I brought it up, not because I renegged on my initial argument...again, you guys fish for things that aren't there...spin...spin..spin.
8/8/2010 6:49 PM (edited)
I have not read you're junk in ages. I blocked you as soon as I could. After the whole 50% thing and spamming everything with BPI or whatever as well as crying about being a crappy coach who losses to sim ai I just stopped paying any attention to you. Notice you are really the only coach crying bout sim ai losses? Maybe its due to you being a ****** coach, and not the engine. This stuff isn't happening to any of the above average coaches... Just my .02
8/8/2010 6:52 PM
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