Isn't that opposite of what we should see?  I understood the change to mean average recruits would get better, not that elite recruits would get worse.

By definition, a change in standard deviation means both tails are going to contract.  Besides, what difference does it make if the average recruits hold still while the top goes down slightly or the top holds still while the middle moves up?  The two got closer.

Who cares?  We're all playing from the pool of players.  

Don't the recruits for the next season get generated right after recruiting finishes in the previous season anyway?

Posted by udm_mike on 2/5/2011 5:01:00 PM (view original):
Who cares?  We're all playing from the pool of players.  

I only care because that's not what was said was going to happen.  It didn't say elite recruits would get worse, it said all recruits would get better. 

"For new recruits, increased averages for most other individual ratings across the board to raise the overall average."

THe value of the OVERALL recruits can increase while the ELITE recruits still go down.  They are not mutually exclusive.  The 1 - 200 ranked players are only a portion of the whole player pool.

Again it say it will raise recruits overall average, that would seem to imply it is for all recruits not just some.  Nowhere does it say they will decrease overalls for players.

THe overall average would be the added together sum of every single recruit in the pool from division one to division three divided by the total number of recruits.  The overall average can, indeed, rise while the average of parts of it lowers.  THAT would be very consistent with the statement that the standard deviation was lowered.

for comparisions, here are averages for the top 200 ranked recruits the past 5 seasons for Allen and Rupp

PG	gpa	ATH	SPD	REB	DEF	SB	LP	PER	BH	PAS	WE	STA	DUR	FT	TOT
1-20	2.9	82	81	21	78	10	26	69	75	72	54	72	51	71	691
21-50	3.0	63	72	8	58	3	14	63	65	61	60	71	52	72	590
51-100	3.0	57	67	5	53	1	8	55	61	58	60	71	50	71	545
101-150	2.9	48	65	5	45	2	10	56	58	55	54	71	53	72	520
151-200	2.9	42	64	5	39	2	13	52	57	51	52	72	54	72	502
SG	gpa	ATH	SPD	REB	DEF	SB	LP	PER	BH	PAS	WE	STA	DUR	FT	TOT
1-20	2.9	84	68	32	80	17	41	71	66	67	56	69	52	70	701
21-50	3.0	62	59	19	56	7	27	66	55	54	58	70	51	70	585
51-100	3.0	52	55	16	48	5	26	61	52	51	56	69	50	70	542
101-150	2.9	48	54	14	45	4	23	57	49	47	54	69	51	70	515
151-200	3.0	44	52	12	41	4	21	53	47	45	54	70	51	70	495
SF	gpa	ATH	SPD	REB	DEF	SB	LP	PER	BH	PAS	WE	STA	DUR	FT	TOT
1-20	2.9	79	57	50	76	38	57	60	56	56	52	67	51	69	699
21-50	3.0	61	47	39	57	27	45	48	46	46	58	68	52	69	592
51-100	3.0	53	44	35	49	23	43	43	41	42	56	68	51	69	548
101-150	2.9	50	42	33	46	19	39	40	39	40	54	68	52	68	522
151-200	2.9	44	41	32	41	19	37	38	39	38	52	68	50	68	499
PF	gpa	ATH	SPD	REB	DEF	SB	LP	PER	BH	PAS	WE	STA	DUR	FT	TOT
1-20	2.9	80	46	67	76	61	71	42	48	53	53	66	53	67	716
21-50	3.0	61	36	56	57	49	63	31	35	41	57	65	54	67	606
51-100	3.0	53	33	53	50	45	60	28	32	37	56	65	51	68	561
101-150	3.0	48	31	51	45	43	57	24	30	33	53	65	50	67	532
151-200	3.0	44	30	50	41	42	53	22	29	33	53	65	49	67	510
C	gpa	ATH	SPD	REB	DEF	SB	LP	PER	BH	PAS	WE	STA	DUR	FT	TOT
1-20	2.9	80	36	83	76	79	66	24	39	46	53	65	51	66	697
21-50	3.0	60	24	73	54	68	62	15	25	33	60	63	53	66	589
51-100	3.0	53	20	69	50	64	55	12	22	28	57	63	53	66	547
101-150	2.9	48	18	68	44	62	53	10	19	25	56	63	51	66	518
151-200	3.0	44	18	65	41	58	50	10	19	25	53	63	51	66	496

Posted by arssanguinus on 2/5/2011 6:40:00 PM (view original):
THe overall average would be the added together sum of every single recruit in the pool from division one to division three divided by the total number of recruits.  The overall average can, indeed, rise while the average of parts of it lowers.  THAT would be very consistent with the statement that the standard deviation was lowered.

"I should have provided more information about this change yesterday. Basically what I've done is bump up the averages for most individual ratings (which in turn raises the overall), while also lowering the standard deviation. The end result will be to close the gap between the average player and the extremes (both high and low). This should help address the concerns about a steep dropoff from the very elite players to the next level of DI recruits."

"The average overall rating will only go up about 3 points or so with this change. It does affect all players because we generate recruits as an entire pool at one time. We don't generate them by division or rating range or anything like that. The average max ratings will not change (other than FT being lowered a bit), so you shouldn't see that much of a change in potentials."

These are quotes from the developers chat.  Yes he states Standard deviation will go down, but also says the increase will be for all recruits.  Nowhere does it say top recruits will go down, which based on the numbers seen in this post they have.

Where does it say they WON'T go down?

 

The three DOES take effect.  But if the standard deviation lowers the top and then you add three, it still goes down.

YOu are mixing categories.  THe OVERALL average raised.

That does not mean every single subcategory of it has to raise.
 

A_in_the_B, give it up.  He's not getting it.  Not a math major, perhaps...