Posted by tianyi7886 on 5/22/2011 8:02:00 PM (view original):
The second guy is better holistically (off and def), but I could easily see why #1 is more efficient on offense. 99 per negates the ath/spd deficiency.

Definitely not. And even if it did there is no way 25 points in per offsets 45 points in BH on top of the huge edge in ath/per. I will say I think Harvey is shooting too many 3s. With his ath/sp + FT combo I'd want to put him in as many situations as possible where he can get fouled.

Posted by kmasonbx on 5/22/2011 9:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 5/22/2011 8:02:00 PM (view original):
The second guy is better holistically (off and def), but I could easily see why #1 is more efficient on offense. 99 per negates the ath/spd deficiency.

Definitely not. And even if it did there is no way 25 points in per offsets 45 points in BH on top of the huge edge in ath/per. I will say I think Harvey is shooting too many 3s. With his ath/sp + FT combo I'd want to put him in as many situations as possible where he can get fouled.

We'll just have to wait and see by the season ends. I always felt that 3pt shooters don't benefit much from bh. #2 is also hurting in the stamina department, and not playing at fresh for the whole game. 

 factors important to this discussion other than the obvious ratings of each player:
1 - schedule difficulty (I think #2's sched is even a bit harder than it might first appear looking at sos)
2 - quality of teammates / gameplan
3 - random number theory vs limited sample size

I have a very efficient d3 player, who has been much less efficient his junior year than his soph year, at least I think he has.  One thing about him, he is playing the same position (PG), with the same distro, with the same starting SG, and both the SF's are the same

pts / (fga + .5 x fta) =
soph season 642/(389 + 61) = 1.42
junior season: 248/(157 + 28) = 1.30

I would assume I have not overnight become a real different coach, differences do occur from season to season and player to player.  

http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1729994

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FG3M	FG3A	FTM	FTA	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
49	12	12	259	76	157	46	104	50	56	2	12	30	25	17	0	36	248
48	33	33	736	209	389	117	239	107	122	12	31	125	60	62	0	72	642
47	Redshirt
46	29	29	526	44	113	29	82	17	20	4	11	49	33	11	0	67	134
Totals	74	74	1521	329	659	192	425	174	198	18	54	204	118	90	0	175	1024

Posted by oldresorter on 5/23/2011 10:24:00 AM (view original):
 factors important to this discussion other than the obvious ratings of each player:
1 - schedule difficulty (I think #2's sched is even a bit harder than it might first appear looking at sos)
2 - quality of teammates / gameplan
3 - random number theory vs limited sample size

I have a very efficient d3 player, who has been much less efficient his junior year than his soph year, at least I think he has.  One thing about him, he is playing the same position (PG), with the same distro, with the same starting SG, and both the SF's are the same

pts / (fga + .5 x fta) =
soph season 642/(389 + 61) = 1.42
junior season: 248/(157 + 28) = 1.30

I would assume I have not overnight become a real different coach, differences do occur from season to season and player to player.  

http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1729994

Yr.	GP	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FG3M	FG3A	FTM	FTA	OFF	REB	AST	TO	STL	BLK	PF	PTS
49	12	12	259	76	157	46	104	50	56	2	12	30	25	17	0	36	248
48	33	33	736	209	389	117	239	107	122	12	31	125	60	62	0	72	642
47	Redshirt
46	29	29	526	44	113	29	82	17	20	4	11	49	33	11	0	67	134
Totals	74	74	1521	329	659	192	425	174	198	18	54	204	118	90	0	175	1024

harder than it appears?

harder than it appears based on the SOS - which if I recall was in the 40's - I play in that world d2, over half the teams on his non conf sched are likely to make the sweet 16 or higher - no big deal - it may not be obvious to everyone that this is not an ordinary d2 schedule, if so, I apologize, just trying to help, shooting efficiency vs top twnety teams is much different that vs sim teams in the middle of the pack

between the small sample size, and the gap in SOS, i dont think its very surprising at all. when you play against awful teams with awful players, its easy to be a super star. a lot of sim teams are crappy for a school down a division, so its very close to a totally useless stat, how a player fares against a bunch of sims. unless he struggles. THAT says something :) it is fun when you forget to schedule and at non conf, you are shooting like 68% and 53% 3s, with a 15 reb margin, but it doesn't mean a heck of a lot :P fun until you look at your rpi, of course!

Posted by uconnut on 5/23/2011 1:05:00 PM (view original):

cal-davis, lane, morehouse, ft hays and virginia union?

Yeah, that Ft Hays St team is good enough to win it all.

Speaking of not making sense, I don't understand how this guy http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1786261 isn't better than he is.