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kev959
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Posted by BastanRedsox on 10/15/2011 5:55:00 AM (view original):
Also search for WRKP RADIO or something in forums. Very long read, but it helped me a ton and is a good in depth introduction.
Found it. Looks very helpful.
10/17/2011 12:49 PM
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You need a team of studs or you wont win jack.
10/17/2011 2:38 PM
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That's not true I have no studs and I win jack chit all the time.
10/17/2011 10:20 PM
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keV, IMO once you get ur team setup, the time commitment is about same as playoff season in gd . Of course, u can spend more or less time on it depending on ur level of involvement in minor league system.
10/17/2011 11:48 PM
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Posted by a_ersberg on 10/17/2011 2:38:00 PM (view original):
You need a team of studs or you wont win jack.
This is a bad trap to fall into, and it's what leads to owners tanking multiple seasons. I've frequently made the playoffs with teams that had no All-Stars or award nominees, and once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen.

I would encourage you to learn what ratings/skills matter most and which skills are undervalued so you can compete every year with free agent bargains while landing one or two good prospects through international FA or the draft. As long as you put in an hour or two during the week we have to scout draft prospects and rank them, you'll land a ML regular even at the bottom of the first round, and sometimes even in the supplemental or second rounds.
10/18/2011 6:49 AM
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Once you've set your feet, find worlds with win minimums and possibly other restrictions that help prevent tanking.  The "I prefer to build from within" mantra while winning 40 games per season is code for "I'm tanking".  Win minimums help offset the temptation to do that sort of thing (which is ultimately bad for a world).

Also, read "What We Learned In Aaron and Ruth".

Read all the forums you can.

Read 'em again.

And as mentioned above, doing nothing with respect to trades, a lot of times is better than doing something.

10/18/2011 12:29 PM
kev959
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Again, much appreciated info all!
10/18/2011 1:52 PM
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Make certain you understand the arbitration process.  And also the free agent compensation system.  These will be important early in the season.

And to stress it again:  avoid trades, or at least approach them with caution.  If you took over an abandoned team there will likely be overpaid players on your team, and the impulse for new players is to trade them away for prospects or younger ML players...this almost always backfires, so avoid the temptation, at least for your first season or so.  Player evaluation will likely take a while to understand, and it is the rare veteran who offers value to new owners.  If someone offers you a trade, run it by several mentors, or post the player who is asked for in world chat and ask for competing offers or advice to see what happens.  Get as much input from varying people as possible. 

Put money into your training budget, it impacts both player development and player decline (as they age). 
10/18/2011 2:46 PM
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Posted by travisg on 10/18/2011 6:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by a_ersberg on 10/17/2011 2:38:00 PM (view original):
You need a team of studs or you wont win jack.
This is a bad trap to fall into, and it's what leads to owners tanking multiple seasons. I've frequently made the playoffs with teams that had no All-Stars or award nominees, and once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen.

I would encourage you to learn what ratings/skills matter most and which skills are undervalued so you can compete every year with free agent bargains while landing one or two good prospects through international FA or the draft. As long as you put in an hour or two during the week we have to scout draft prospects and rank them, you'll land a ML regular even at the bottom of the first round, and sometimes even in the supplemental or second rounds.
But its true.  You need a lineup full of sensational hitters and a pitching staff of 80+ in every stat to do in anything in this game.
10/18/2011 8:24 PM
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In addition to avoiding trades, I would also avoid big free agent signings until you know what you are doing.  Also note that you can get some not-great-but-useful players late in spring training and early season for moderate one-year contracts (at least in my world).  No need to panic when filling in your last roster spots.  SCout and monitor during spring training to see what is out there.
10/18/2011 9:54 PM
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the first thing to rememer - don't do any trades until you figure out everything.

i made my mistakes - as did most other owners - by thinking we were doing something smart when it wasn't.

don't be afraid to ask for help - in most worlds there are owners who are truely willing to be nice - if you can't find one - ask someone here on the forums.

don't neglect the minors, if nothing else make sure you have rosters that work (enough sp and right defensive positions).

lastly - once you figure out what you are doing - make the team your own - have fun
10/19/2011 5:06 AM
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My guess is that aersberg is in worlds with stacked teams and he's frustrated because he can't make any in-roads.   Which goes back to "choose a world carefully".     If it's a world where the same 8-10 teams have been running thru the regular season with 100 wins, it's probably not a good place to start.
10/19/2011 8:21 AM
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Posted by mchalesarmy on 10/18/2011 9:59:00 PM (view original):
No it's not true.

I would encourage Kev959 to learn how to look at user profiles.

Click on the name of any owner, it will pull up a screen and in that screen you can see how successful an owner is. 

a_ersberg 

Dynasty Overall

Record: 1558-2032 (.434)

Championships: 0

How can he begin to tell anyone what it takes to win when he has a poor track record and has never won anything. 

That isn't to say that someone with a bad record can not be right, but when a person makes ridiculous statements and others disagree with them. Let's look at the facts.
It would seem to me that in order to advise others on how to win, you should show some competency yourself.


A vast majority of my teams were midseason take overs.  I only have two full time teams.  Maybe you should check the facts first.  Pretty strong words there, rookie.  I know this game just a bit better than you.
10/19/2011 9:32 AM
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Posted by kev959 on 10/17/2011 12:45:00 PM (view original):
Thanks for the info guys.

So from what I'm reading:

Stay away from trades from teh time being. (Do SIMS trade?)
Learn Rule 5

I'm also trying to find out what's the timeline like. For instance in GD, a season would roll over then 7 days later recruitng starts, then something like 7 days later the season starts. I'm getting the impression that in HBD its the Commish's call to roll into the new season, correct?

Once the season rolls how does that timeline play out? Basically, I'm looking to get in but want to know what kind of time commitment will be required to get things rolling. Its seems like there is a ton more to absorb than what GD could ever offer. And thats a good thing.
Don't see anyone that answered that first question, so I will.

There are no SIMS here (unlike GDD or HD). Every team is controlled by a (more or less attentive) human being.
10/19/2011 9:59 AM
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