Tad I'm starting to think your right, this may be a case of " a beautiful idea, killed by an ugly fact"! Also I'm starting to like Scud's pyramid idea. What do you guy's think should we move in the direction of Scud's idea. Not to mention Malone's SIM poison idea is sounding fun too. I wonder if use poison players and win with them, can we evolve the meta...hehehe. we all spend time and money on this site and the SIM though not perfect does work, together we can create some fun leagues inspite of admin's lack of attention. We're all in this together and I'm pulling for you - the "Red Green Show"