Why cant this kid score? Topic

Posted by Rails on 2/3/2012 5:18:00 PM (view original):
For me, then it's not shooting percentage at all.  It's FT% and TOs that are dropping his efficiency.
I think the lost efficiency due to FT% is a little overblown. Sure, if you compare him to a hypothetical guy who shoots 100% from the line, then yeah, he's leaving a point/game on the line. But how many elite big men exist in the HD universe who shoot anywhere near that? Maybe 2 or 3 who shoot over 90% in a given world? I think you have to compare to a reasonable max available (like 80-90th percentile of big men or something) rather than the theoretical max to gauge how much you're really losing from an actual/realistic standpoint. From that perspective, he's leaving more like half a point per game on the line, rather than a full point. Nitpicking, I know, but thought I'd draw the distinction.
2/4/2012 6:52 PM
I can definitely see why you would want to try and have him shoot 3s, I mean he has plenty of SPD and ATH to play on the perimeter and 77 PER on top of it.  With that said, depending on individual matchups, I'd try to use his SPD/ATH where it would be the greatest advantage...in the post.  My guess is that most of the PF/Cs that he would face do not have 70+SPD/90+ATH.  He's going to score in the post or get fouled.  With a C FT rating, he should be making more than he is, but even if he's not making all of them, players are still getting fouls and either having to go to the bench or fouling out.  My own personal opinion FWIW, either lower his 3pt shooting to -1/-2 and let him exploit post play advantage or move him to SF on your depth chart and set him at 0/+1 for 3s.
2/6/2012 10:51 AM
well, its been like 3 games, maybe 4, since i looked at him. sample size should be going down only somewhat but still, its getting up there... anyway in the last 3 games hes still under 50%. but thats 1-5 from 3pt and 10-18 from 2 point land. the thing that worries me a bit is even against sim baylor, he went 3-7 and 0-1...

i will probably get shot down for saying this, but there has always been something a little funny about these kinds of players in the flex offense, for me at least. its not like i never played it - played it enough to win 3 - but i still never could wrap my head around what made it tick. i do feel strongly that guards are very much able to jack up 3s, but the rest of the team? i don't know. maybe that is holding him back a bit. i definitely would not move him to C, per to me is damn near useless at C, in any set. ive had success with PFs like this in motion, and in triangle, but at UK i ran flex and was always frustrated - i had thought this kind of player was exactly what i wanted, i mean how can he not be? look how good he is. but he never seemed to click like i wanted. maybe its just my experience though. i don't think trying him at SF is a bad idea inherently, but i havent looked at the rest of your team to see if that is viable or not.

anyway, one thing i did notice that could be a factor, although it might be a bit of a longshot, is your team 3s are low. no way, with your team, running flex no less, would i expect to see that few 3s. aside from making you a weaker club and easier to game plan against, it might be the case that without substantial 3 point threats out there, he is getting guarded when he takes his 3s more so than a PF normally would? a similar effect definitely exists with FGs, at least i think so, but i have nothing to base it on with respect to 3s (i always take a lot anyway). stupid internet is out, so i am just typing this blind off what i remember so i can post it later when it comes back - your only major per/spd player had like 50 lp i think. those guys tend to have really good 2 pt %s that make you not want to take away from them with a + 3 point setting. so i usually don't - but that is based on trying to edge down my overall 3 point shooting in the first place. if i was trying to make it go up, i wouldn't hesitate to toss that guy a +1 or +2. wish i could see his fg% vs 3pt% now though.... and also maybe your sf could go to a -1 or something? if hes not already?

so, in summary, i am grasping at straws. but i would try to up your total 3pta. 
2/6/2012 12:39 PM
yay. internet is back! i would consider swapping luby and heidt, if just to see how it goes. heidt's reb would go to better use, although im sure you know zone better than me, i don't know if that loss of spd/ath matters much or not. its probably a bad move, everything but reb suggests leave them how they are. i would really just be curious to see how luby performs at the 3 relatively, it probably wouldn't hurt you enough to cause you to drop games really...
2/6/2012 12:42 PM
Ive never dealt with the flex, so my opinion is more based on Triangle/Motion
2/6/2012 3:57 PM
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