Posted by hughesjr on 3/28/2012 12:17:00 PM (view original):
It says "OK Reputation" ... you need almost "Spotless" reputation and an "A" Loyalty to get almost any Div-I job.  An A- is "Great Reputation" ... so OK would be at least in the B range.

Thank you.  Good info

Yeah, your reputation is probably not good enough to get DI jobs, and while you have had tons of success through your career the most recent seasons still carry the greatest weight, and you were 13-17 and lost in the 1st round of the PI, then dropped down a level and went 9-19. 

Posted by acn24 on 3/28/2012 12:23:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, your reputation is probably not good enough to get DI jobs, and while you have had tons of success through your career the most recent seasons still carry the greatest weight, and you were 13-17 and lost in the 1st round of the PI, then dropped down a level and went 9-19. 

This.  As you said, you've got twice the titles as me, but I rode my DIII title to low DI, then a couple of DI NT appearances and a bunch of low-DI wins to the BCS.  Recent seasons matter a BUNCH.

Not sure if you could hang in the MVC!

We will never know.  None of my id's qualify.  my d1 resume with an e8 at a low level school or my d3 id with a title.  oh well  guessim officially done after my credits run out.

Could be because you left the Upstate conference.  You should never cross those guys!

Thats true

Brian!!!!  I was curious where you went!!!  Same thing happened to me actually when I came back.  I complained to CS and they upped my Prestige so I could join.

You left Washburn right before I came back.  Now I am in the MVC!!

These are the cases-in-point for why D-I is an abandoned ghost town in many conferences and in many worlds.  Serious coaches who either make deep tourney runs after several successful seasons in D-II aren't considered longshots for D+ prestige jobs, and even one of the best coaches in the entire game's history can't get consideration.

It's absurd:  it diminishes the talent pool of capable coaches in D-I, it inhibits mid-major conferences from competing with the BCS ones, and it's costly to the businessmen on bottom-line principles whenever people (like Brian) decide to cash in their chips and wave goodbye to WIS.

The idea that Brian couldn't get a job with his track record over Simmy's 4-23 (1-15) squad is stupid beyond comprehension.

Posted by wsredden on 3/28/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):
These are the cases-in-point for why D-I is an abandoned ghost town in many conferences and in many worlds.  Serious coaches who either make deep tourney runs after several successful seasons in D-II aren't considered longshots for D+ prestige jobs, and even one of the best coaches in the entire game's history can't get consideration.

It's absurd:  it diminishes the talent pool of capable coaches in D-I, it inhibits mid-major conferences from competing with the BCS ones, and it's costly to the businessmen on bottom-line principles whenever people (like Brian) decide to cash in their chips and wave goodbye to WIS.

The idea that Brian couldn't get a job with his track record over Simmy's 4-23 (1-15) squad is stupid beyond comprehension.

He should have never dropped down to D3 and hurt his rep. He could have jumped into D1 power conf (MWC, A-10, maybe a weak BCS conf) is he just stayed at D2. 

I think I can guess the guy who bailed after one season...

Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/28/2012 6:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wsredden on 3/28/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):
These are the cases-in-point for why D-I is an abandoned ghost town in many conferences and in many worlds.  Serious coaches who either make deep tourney runs after several successful seasons in D-II aren't considered longshots for D+ prestige jobs, and even one of the best coaches in the entire game's history can't get consideration.

It's absurd:  it diminishes the talent pool of capable coaches in D-I, it inhibits mid-major conferences from competing with the BCS ones, and it's costly to the businessmen on bottom-line principles whenever people (like Brian) decide to cash in their chips and wave goodbye to WIS.

The idea that Brian couldn't get a job with his track record over Simmy's 4-23 (1-15) squad is stupid beyond comprehension.

He should have never dropped down to D3 and hurt his rep. He could have jumped into D1 power conf (MWC, A-10, maybe a weak BCS conf) is he just stayed at D2. 

Ok, but he didn't.  If an AD didn't can a 4-23 Simmy in favor of brip, he should be fired, too.  

The MVC awaits your arrival Brian whenever that happens.

Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/28/2012 6:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wsredden on 3/28/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):
These are the cases-in-point for why D-I is an abandoned ghost town in many conferences and in many worlds.  Serious coaches who either make deep tourney runs after several successful seasons in D-II aren't considered longshots for D+ prestige jobs, and even one of the best coaches in the entire game's history can't get consideration.

It's absurd:  it diminishes the talent pool of capable coaches in D-I, it inhibits mid-major conferences from competing with the BCS ones, and it's costly to the businessmen on bottom-line principles whenever people (like Brian) decide to cash in their chips and wave goodbye to WIS.

The idea that Brian couldn't get a job with his track record over Simmy's 4-23 (1-15) squad is stupid beyond comprehension.

He should have never dropped down to D3 and hurt his rep. He could have jumped into D1 power conf (MWC, A-10, maybe a weak BCS conf) is he just stayed at D2. 

+1

Also, remember the most recent seasons count the most, and his last two seasons are WEAK.

Posted by acn24 on 3/29/2012 8:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/28/2012 6:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wsredden on 3/28/2012 6:11:00 PM (view original):
These are the cases-in-point for why D-I is an abandoned ghost town in many conferences and in many worlds.  Serious coaches who either make deep tourney runs after several successful seasons in D-II aren't considered longshots for D+ prestige jobs, and even one of the best coaches in the entire game's history can't get consideration.

It's absurd:  it diminishes the talent pool of capable coaches in D-I, it inhibits mid-major conferences from competing with the BCS ones, and it's costly to the businessmen on bottom-line principles whenever people (like Brian) decide to cash in their chips and wave goodbye to WIS.

The idea that Brian couldn't get a job with his track record over Simmy's 4-23 (1-15) squad is stupid beyond comprehension.

He should have never dropped down to D3 and hurt his rep. He could have jumped into D1 power conf (MWC, A-10, maybe a weak BCS conf) is he just stayed at D2. 

+1

Also, remember the most recent seasons count the most, and his last two seasons are WEAK.

Thanks for stating the obvious, which has already been stated a dozen times.  

 However, it's not the point.  The point is that brip's track record is better than a 'D' prestige SIM coming off a 4-win season at a mid-major conference.  .  His 16 seasons of loyalty at D-II, including 2 Titles, should make this discussion moot and his acceptance into the MVC obvious.  That it's not is a major failing of the application process and a reason why the D-I level is a ghost town.