Interest In more worlds(2x) Topic

Coach spud is dead on. When I was recently asked to join the new Smith power conference, I looked at that world. At first glance, I saw 3 full conferences and probably 90% of the rest were completely empty with not one human in it. The SoCal was 3/4th full and asking for coaches. When I looked at total openings, it was same as the other worlds, with almost 300 D3 openings. In short, I'd be playing the same 20-30 coaches every year, same as we all already do in all the other worlds. If someone wants a D3 or D2 job, plenty are to be had.

In fact, this is exactly why I'm dropping a D3 team. Despite being there for 30+ seasons, the rest of the conference has been transient.

There is no reason, none whatsoever to dilute the coach pool. In fact, they should contract. As far as the issue of not enough two a day worlds, I can't see this as a problem. There's simply not enough coaches to justify it. And more than two games a day? Coaches in those worlds complain they didn't get enough time to game plan, make the first period recruiting time, etc. 3-day would only make this worse.
1/9/2016 2:04 AM
Posted by trophaeum on 1/9/2016 2:04:00 AM (view original):
Coach spud is dead on. When I was recently asked to join the new Smith power conference, I looked at that world. At first glance, I saw 3 full conferences and probably 90% of the rest were completely empty with not one human in it. The SoCal was 3/4th full and asking for coaches. When I looked at total openings, it was same as the other worlds, with almost 300 D3 openings. In short, I'd be playing the same 20-30 coaches every year, same as we all already do in all the other worlds. If someone wants a D3 or D2 job, plenty are to be had.

In fact, this is exactly why I'm dropping a D3 team. Despite being there for 30+ seasons, the rest of the conference has been transient.

There is no reason, none whatsoever to dilute the coach pool. In fact, they should contract. As far as the issue of not enough two a day worlds, I can't see this as a problem. There's simply not enough coaches to justify it. And more than two games a day? Coaches in those worlds complain they didn't get enough time to game plan, make the first period recruiting time, etc. 3-day would only make this worse.
+1

The game needs to be advertised. It should be on the Fox front page for two to three months... We'd get more owners.
1/9/2016 10:41 AM
One of the dumbest ideas that still pops up on the forums every 6 months...

"race to DI" ? LMAO - you know who will get there??? The same 32 coaches who made it to DI in all the other worlds...
Then what are the rest of you going to do?? Ask for a new world to be created??
1/9/2016 10:44 AM
Posted by zorzii on 1/9/2016 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by trophaeum on 1/9/2016 2:04:00 AM (view original):
Coach spud is dead on. When I was recently asked to join the new Smith power conference, I looked at that world. At first glance, I saw 3 full conferences and probably 90% of the rest were completely empty with not one human in it. The SoCal was 3/4th full and asking for coaches. When I looked at total openings, it was same as the other worlds, with almost 300 D3 openings. In short, I'd be playing the same 20-30 coaches every year, same as we all already do in all the other worlds. If someone wants a D3 or D2 job, plenty are to be had.

In fact, this is exactly why I'm dropping a D3 team. Despite being there for 30+ seasons, the rest of the conference has been transient.

There is no reason, none whatsoever to dilute the coach pool. In fact, they should contract. As far as the issue of not enough two a day worlds, I can't see this as a problem. There's simply not enough coaches to justify it. And more than two games a day? Coaches in those worlds complain they didn't get enough time to game plan, make the first period recruiting time, etc. 3-day would only make this worse.
+1

The game needs to be advertised. It should be on the Fox front page for two to three months... We'd get more owners.

You'd get more owners, that have no idea how to play the game, IE: more Sim teams... 

I think more worlds wont really effect population much at all... Most owners seem to have teams in multiple leagues anyways... I'd not be opposed to a world being erased after 100 seasons, post the results for those 100 seasons somewhere, and then start up the world back at zero. The biggest reason people stop playing, is because at this point, you're so far behind the game, you don't wanna spend $50-$100 just to compete, and not win. 

I'm just starting, and I'm very discouraged that I'll need to spend $100+ just to compete with some of you owners, and probably never win... I can think of  $100 better spent. If things were replaced with an even field every now and again, I'd be more willing to start at a level field and drop that kind of money more often. 

1/9/2016 10:57 AM (edited)
Not to derail the thread, but the cost is in issue too. $12.95 is way too much. An entire month of Netflix or Hulu is half that. Especially considering no work has been done on this game. This game should be 7.95 a season. It's one reason I respect Gillispie so much, his willingness to pay to try things out.

Me, I can't pay 12.95 for 4-5 seasons testing out an offense and defense and recruiting plan. Moving jobs is pointless too, because it's just costing too much money to do a rebuild. Not when they've done zero work on this game for years.
1/9/2016 12:40 PM
I think a shift of some 1x worlds to 2x could be done.
1/9/2016 12:56 PM
Posted by trophaeum on 1/9/2016 12:40:00 PM (view original):
Not to derail the thread, but the cost is in issue too. $12.95 is way too much. An entire month of Netflix or Hulu is half that. Especially considering no work has been done on this game. This game should be 7.95 a season. It's one reason I respect Gillispie so much, his willingness to pay to try things out.

Me, I can't pay 12.95 for 4-5 seasons testing out an offense and defense and recruiting plan. Moving jobs is pointless too, because it's just costing too much money to do a rebuild. Not when they've done zero work on this game for years.
If you make the NT you get a discount. 2nd round.. Bigger discount, etc. So, if you win then you play for much less.
1/9/2016 12:58 PM
What would be wrong with making 1-2 of the 1x to 2x?
1/9/2016 1:04 PM
Posted by hughesjr on 1/9/2016 12:56:00 PM (view original):
I think a shift of some 1x worlds to 2x could be done.
+1
Sorry, hughes I just saw that you said this
1/9/2016 1:07 PM
Not to sound too cynical but discussing and arguing all these ideas is pretty pointless isn't it? Until we actually see a desire from WIS to make changes based upon what the community wants, nothing is going to happen. So we're all debating for the sake of debating, nothing more.
1/9/2016 1:31 PM
Posted by mullycj on 1/9/2016 10:44:00 AM (view original):
One of the dumbest ideas that still pops up on the forums every 6 months...

"race to DI" ? LMAO - you know who will get there??? The same 32 coaches who made it to DI in all the other worlds...
Then what are the rest of you going to do?? Ask for a new world to be created??
It has nothing to do for racing to D1 for me.

I just hate the time 1x world goes as.

I agree thiugh anyone except for a select few complaining about racing to D1 isn't smart.
1/9/2016 1:43 PM
I like 1xday world. Naismith DIII is awesome. I think the price should go down too, 8,99$ and keeping the credits the way they are. We have three 2x day worlds. If people liked 2x more, you'd see a difference in the number of owners from the 1x world. Naismith is the most active DIII. Tark is at DI the most active. No idea for DII
1/9/2016 1:56 PM
Posted by lilspike0738 on 1/9/2016 10:57:00 AM (view original):
Posted by zorzii on 1/9/2016 10:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by trophaeum on 1/9/2016 2:04:00 AM (view original):
Coach spud is dead on. When I was recently asked to join the new Smith power conference, I looked at that world. At first glance, I saw 3 full conferences and probably 90% of the rest were completely empty with not one human in it. The SoCal was 3/4th full and asking for coaches. When I looked at total openings, it was same as the other worlds, with almost 300 D3 openings. In short, I'd be playing the same 20-30 coaches every year, same as we all already do in all the other worlds. If someone wants a D3 or D2 job, plenty are to be had.

In fact, this is exactly why I'm dropping a D3 team. Despite being there for 30+ seasons, the rest of the conference has been transient.

There is no reason, none whatsoever to dilute the coach pool. In fact, they should contract. As far as the issue of not enough two a day worlds, I can't see this as a problem. There's simply not enough coaches to justify it. And more than two games a day? Coaches in those worlds complain they didn't get enough time to game plan, make the first period recruiting time, etc. 3-day would only make this worse.
+1

The game needs to be advertised. It should be on the Fox front page for two to three months... We'd get more owners.

You'd get more owners, that have no idea how to play the game, IE: more Sim teams... 

I think more worlds wont really effect population much at all... Most owners seem to have teams in multiple leagues anyways... I'd not be opposed to a world being erased after 100 seasons, post the results for those 100 seasons somewhere, and then start up the world back at zero. The biggest reason people stop playing, is because at this point, you're so far behind the game, you don't wanna spend $50-$100 just to compete, and not win. 

I'm just starting, and I'm very discouraged that I'll need to spend $100+ just to compete with some of you owners, and probably never win... I can think of  $100 better spent. If things were replaced with an even field every now and again, I'd be more willing to start at a level field and drop that kind of money more often. 

i definitely get where you are coming from, to compete with existing owners in d1, its definitely north of 100 dollars (assuming that gets you ~10 seasons). but to compete in d3, its a different story. i think you can start to compete with all but the absolute top coaches in the game, pretty quickly. im not saying you'll be 50/50 in your matches, but i think after a few seasons are under your belt, quick learners can recruit players that are roughly on par with the A prestige programs of the world. my 2nd season ever, i recruited a d3 class that was good for a 1 seed in their senior year, i felt that class was #3 in the whole country that year (i was new, so maybe it was a lot worse than 3, but we did get the 2nd 1 seed - lost in round 2 to a -5 slowdown DT of my only real 3 point threat - lesson learned!). i had a mentor but he wasn't a world beater, and plenty of other folks have walked into d3 and made sweet 16s or pulled 1-2-3 seeds in their first half dozen seasons.

i do think its harder today, FSS and potential added more, you can't just look at ratings, you have to project out and all that, and that is something it took experienced coaches a while to get used to when potential first came out. so i think that significantly adds to the learning curve. but i do think you can be making the NT pretty quickly if you are a sharp young coach who takes advantage of all the learning materials available to you (most important among those - studying the elite teams around you). so, i wouldn't despair just yet - d3 and d2 are a total blast, when you get into it. many coaches prefer them overall, i did for years, until i got too burnt out on the game planning side and just wanted to experience the competitive d1 recruiting. 
1/9/2016 2:00 PM
Posted by zorzii on 1/9/2016 1:56:00 PM (view original):
I like 1xday world. Naismith DIII is awesome. I think the price should go down too, 8,99$ and keeping the credits the way they are. We have three 2x day worlds. If people liked 2x more, you'd see a difference in the number of owners from the 1x world. Naismith is the most active DIII. Tark is at DI the most active. No idea for DII
i am sure this is an extremely unpopular opinion, but i actually think the credits should go. the coaches who really love the game, who should be the games' best paying customers, tend to get ahead and end up paying a lot less than everyone else. the new folks, who haven't gotten to fall in love yet, they are paying more than everyone else - so the most vulnerable customers end up having to pay the most. its a backwards business model. obviously this would suck for me personally - but i think it would be a smarter business model. give people reward points, like you do today, but don't allow them to be utilized for game credits - let people buy t-shirts or add wacky in game stuff like the ability to advertise your favorite player on the news bulletin across all worlds, for a couple days, if you spend a championship's worth of credits to do so. 
1/9/2016 2:05 PM
On the topic of coaching populations I think there is something that is something to look at when comparing populations.

1x worlds are still able to attract coaches who'd rather coach 2x worlds since they have no other option, they don't have time constraints like 1x coaches wanting more worlds that cannot coach 2x worlds due to time ability.

I see it's a very unpopular opinion, but I'm sticking with it.  I think it's really just the 1x coaches not wanting to lose the coaches who'd rather be in the 2x world that are saying it's a horrible idea.  If this was about adding another 1x world I think there would be very little support at all because they're already a bunch of 1x worlds, while there is some support for the 2x worlds.

Pretty much everyone saying no falls into these categories:

doesn't want the population of their own 1x world
or
think the reason for adding another world would for coaches to race to high D1

I'll say it again I think if the situation was reversed and we had 7 2x worlds and 3 1x worlds and were discussing adding a 1x world the people would be complaining about how they can't join 2x worlds if they want to add more worlds.  Some of us just hate the 1x worlds because some of us don't like spending 6 months to get 1 class to graduate.
1/9/2016 7:40 PM
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