Posted by kashmir75 on 2/11/2017 4:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 3:48:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/11/2017 3:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Hats off to irrev who pulled in this guy but holy smokes he might be the best D3 player I've ever seen. I'd take him on my D1 team

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3493337

Ath - 69
Spd - 68
Reb- 74
Def - 75
SB- 54
LP - 87
Per- 69
BH- 49
Pass - 33
WE - 87
ST- 95

That guy is a junior and still has more room to grow. Wow.

He's not a d1 player. D2? sure and a stud d3 but he isn't a d1 player.

seriously? Look at Low and Mid major teams that are human coached. This guy could definitely make most of those teams no problem.

And just out of pure curiosity I looked and here is our favorite poster's starting D1 PF

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=3353&pid=3437118

This guy is starting on a D1 team that is 19-5 and he's worse than that D3 guy I just showed.

He's a D1 player, but I agree with what I feel to be the spirit of what TJ said. No D1 school should be wanting that guy as their prized recruit. He's what used to be borderline lowest tier D1/ A+/A prestige D2 dropdown. He's a nice looking player, but he wouldn't be much of a gamechanger for most D1 teams.

He could be more athletic, and he's not LeBron, but he's definitely mid-low D1 material. And with EEs always an issue, his IQs are great.

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 4:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kashmir75 on 2/11/2017 4:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 3:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/11/2017 3:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Hats off to irrev who pulled in this guy but holy smokes he might be the best D3 player I've ever seen. I'd take him on my D1 team

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3493337

Ath - 69
Spd - 68
Reb- 74
Def - 75
SB- 54
LP - 87
Per- 69
BH- 49
Pass - 33
WE - 87
ST- 95

That guy is a junior and still has more room to grow. Wow.

He's not a d1 player. D2? sure and a stud d3 but he isn't a d1 player.

seriously? Look at Low and Mid major teams that are human coached. This guy could definitely make most of those teams no problem.

And just out of pure curiosity I looked and here is our favorite poster's starting D1 PF

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=3353&pid=3437118

This guy is starting on a D1 team that is 19-5 and he's worse than that D3 guy I just showed.

He's a D1 player, but I agree with what I feel to be the spirit of what TJ said. No D1 school should be wanting that guy as their prized recruit. He's what used to be borderline lowest tier D1/ A+/A prestige D2 dropdown. He's a nice looking player, but he wouldn't be much of a gamechanger for most D1 teams.

No definitely not a gamechanger or a prized recruit. But he is a D1 player that can certainly contribute on some lower D1 teams. Saying he's not a D1 player implies that no D1 coach would want them on their team and I don't think that's true.

He's not going to be starting for any D1 team with any postseason tourney aspirations, for sure.

I sign projects like this occasionally at D1, but I'd never fight for them. A motivated D3 with enough resources could nab this kind of guy from me. The reasons to go after this kind of player at D1 is 1) he's better than a walk on after a redshirt season, 2) he usually doesn't cost a D1 any resources or effort, unless there is an astute coach like rev lurking, and 3) it can be nice to have a high IQ guy who can be a placeholder in his 4th and 5th season, after being hidden deep on the bench for a couple seasons.

prioritization is strategy, and it makes 3.0 lots of fun. I'd hate to lose it.

Posted by pkoopman on 2/11/2017 4:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 4:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kashmir75 on 2/11/2017 4:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 3:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/11/2017 3:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Hats off to irrev who pulled in this guy but holy smokes he might be the best D3 player I've ever seen. I'd take him on my D1 team

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3493337

Ath - 69
Spd - 68
Reb- 74
Def - 75
SB- 54
LP - 87
Per- 69
BH- 49
Pass - 33
WE - 87
ST- 95

That guy is a junior and still has more room to grow. Wow.

He's not a d1 player. D2? sure and a stud d3 but he isn't a d1 player.

seriously? Look at Low and Mid major teams that are human coached. This guy could definitely make most of those teams no problem.

And just out of pure curiosity I looked and here is our favorite poster's starting D1 PF

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=3353&pid=3437118

This guy is starting on a D1 team that is 19-5 and he's worse than that D3 guy I just showed.

He's a D1 player, but I agree with what I feel to be the spirit of what TJ said. No D1 school should be wanting that guy as their prized recruit. He's what used to be borderline lowest tier D1/ A+/A prestige D2 dropdown. He's a nice looking player, but he wouldn't be much of a gamechanger for most D1 teams.

No definitely not a gamechanger or a prized recruit. But he is a D1 player that can certainly contribute on some lower D1 teams. Saying he's not a D1 player implies that no D1 coach would want them on their team and I don't think that's true.

He's not going to be starting for any D1 team with any postseason tourney aspirations, for sure.

I sign projects like this occasionally at D1, but I'd never fight for them. A motivated D3 with enough resources could nab this kind of guy from me. The reasons to go after this kind of player at D1 is 1) he's better than a walk on after a redshirt season, 2) he usually doesn't cost a D1 any resources or effort, unless there is an astute coach like rev lurking, and 3) it can be nice to have a high IQ guy who can be a placeholder in his 4th and 5th season, after being hidden deep on the bench for a couple seasons.

prioritization is strategy, and it makes 3.0 lots of fun. I'd hate to lose it.

Yes prioritizing is key and this is one of the many reasons why I haven't been in a battle yet. But going to be and I will let you guys know the result. I have seen results from Benis saying 3.0 is working with the majority not the minority so it should be a interesting result.

Posted by pkoopman on 2/11/2017 4:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 4:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kashmir75 on 2/11/2017 4:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 3:48:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/11/2017 3:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/11/2017 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Hats off to irrev who pulled in this guy but holy smokes he might be the best D3 player I've ever seen. I'd take him on my D1 team

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=3493337

Ath - 69
Spd - 68
Reb- 74
Def - 75
SB- 54
LP - 87
Per- 69
BH- 49
Pass - 33
WE - 87
ST- 95

That guy is a junior and still has more room to grow. Wow.

He's not a d1 player. D2? sure and a stud d3 but he isn't a d1 player.

seriously? Look at Low and Mid major teams that are human coached. This guy could definitely make most of those teams no problem.

And just out of pure curiosity I looked and here is our favorite poster's starting D1 PF

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=3353&pid=3437118

This guy is starting on a D1 team that is 19-5 and he's worse than that D3 guy I just showed.

He's a D1 player, but I agree with what I feel to be the spirit of what TJ said. No D1 school should be wanting that guy as their prized recruit. He's what used to be borderline lowest tier D1/ A+/A prestige D2 dropdown. He's a nice looking player, but he wouldn't be much of a gamechanger for most D1 teams.

No definitely not a gamechanger or a prized recruit. But he is a D1 player that can certainly contribute on some lower D1 teams. Saying he's not a D1 player implies that no D1 coach would want them on their team and I don't think that's true.

He's not going to be starting for any D1 team with any postseason tourney aspirations, for sure.

I sign projects like this occasionally at D1, but I'd never fight for them. A motivated D3 with enough resources could nab this kind of guy from me. The reasons to go after this kind of player at D1 is 1) he's better than a walk on after a redshirt season, 2) he usually doesn't cost a D1 any resources or effort, unless there is an astute coach like rev lurking, and 3) it can be nice to have a high IQ guy who can be a placeholder in his 4th and 5th season, after being hidden deep on the bench for a couple seasons.

prioritization is strategy, and it makes 3.0 lots of fun. I'd hate to lose it.

Yes. Exactly what this guy is. He'd be competent on the floor without hurting you. And that's not a bad thing. I guess "back up plan" is a little harsh, but I can see him being that, in the event of an EE or a bad recruiting session.

Posted by kayan121110 on 2/11/2017 1:03:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. Going after D1 recruits at a D3 school is one of my favorite aspects of the game right now.

If I may interrupt all the silly chest-pounding over who you would and wouldn't recruit and return the thread to the original topic ... kayan, you are spot on. All those guys who want to further restrict D3's sound fearful. Boo!

It's not silly to discuss if a recruit is legitimate D1 quality.

Looking at your team, you should pay attention to those discussions, spud.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/11/2017 5:30:00 PM (view original):
It's not silly to discuss if a recruit is legitimate D1 quality.

Looking at your team, you should pay attention to those discussions, spud.

Silly chest-pounding. I'll say it again. My recruit is badder than your recruit, how silly.

And a bottom-feeder D+ school in a bottom D1 conference has been a fun rebuild. If anyone wants to stop all the silly chest pounding and start a constructive thread about rebuilds, I'll read it.

But to return this thread to the original topic, again ... kayan, you are spot on. All those guys who want to further restrict D3's sound fearful.

Just because you think it's silly, doesn't mean it is. It's valuable to many people.

The recruit that was brought up in this thread isn't a player capable of helping a team make the post season. Generally speaking, D1 team should aim higher.

Chest pounding? Who is chest pounding? Just discussing whether someone is a legit D1 player or not isn't chest pounding.

I would bet the worlds with more d2 coaches have less D1 guys going to D3. Is that logic flawed?

Yeah. There are actually very few (5 per world?) real d1 players in d3.

Honestly, there were that many in 2.0 as well. There was a greatest players ever in d3 thread a while ago that showed some absolute monsters.

I think that would be a logical assumption. And If the worlds get back to populations we had a decade ago, we'd see almost zero D1 recruits in D3. And those that were would be the very bottom of the D1 barrel, essentially no better than good D3 recruits, if that.

I found three d1 players (that would be backups on a nt quality team) in d3 tark

Posted by kayan121110 on 2/11/2017 6:15:00 PM (view original):
I would bet the worlds with more d2 coaches have less D1 guys going to D3. Is that logic flawed?

Yeah I think that makes sense. But going a step further, location can also be huge depending on what teams are around you. If the local D2 conference is empty then you will probably not have much competition

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/11/2017 6:23:00 PM (view original):
Yeah. There are actually very few (5 per world?) real d1 players in d3.

Honestly, there were that many in 2.0 as well. There was a greatest players ever in d3 thread a while ago that showed some absolute monsters.

I think the biggest difference is that instead of growing into monsters when they are JR and SR, they are starting out already great D3 players when they are FR/SO. Like this dude for example

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=14401&pid=3541051

As a SR, yeah, he's real good. But compared to your typical FR/SO in 2.0, I think he blows them away.