Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Another question. I have 2 great guys I want that’re getting targeted by DI humans. Do I even bother trying to get them?

The short answer is no. If you have a reason to believe they are not priorities for those higher level teams, you can pursue with small AP (~5 won’t hurt), in order to offer a scholarship at some point prior to the last day of recruiting. But you aren’t going to beat a D1 team in a battle, if they decide they want the player. It’s possible, if you find a soft spot, and the D1 is unable to offer anything other than AP, but not advisable to put too much hope (or visits) into it. Save the visits to leverage in battles against other D3 or even mid level D2 humans.

Posted by shoe3 on 9/12/2018 4:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Another question. I have 2 great guys I want that’re getting targeted by DI humans. Do I even bother trying to get them?

The short answer is no. If you have a reason to believe they are not priorities for those higher level teams, you can pursue with small AP (~5 won’t hurt), in order to offer a scholarship at some point prior to the last day of recruiting. But you aren’t going to beat a D1 team in a battle, if they decide they want the player. It’s possible, if you find a soft spot, and the D1 is unable to offer anything other than AP, but not advisable to put too much hope (or visits) into it. Save the visits to leverage in battles against other D3 or even mid level D2 humans.

One more scenario, I have a guy I want where I’d be willing to give a lot of minutes and he wants to play, he has 5 Sim AI scholarships on the table, what do I do?

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 2:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by craigaltonw on 9/12/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):
Yes. You can win the battle. Especially if you use a promised start and/or promised minutes. The recruit will respond even more to promises if they have a preference “wants to play”.

At D3, you can get all D1 recruits. It’s a game of patience until the end of recruiting because human coach D1 or D2 will beat you almost always. But you can beat Sims.

There are also some gems at D2 level to recruit for your D3 team.

What if they don’t have “wants to play?” Will it still be a decent affect?

Yes, there will be a one times bonus when you give them minutes unlike when there is “wants to play” that bonus will carry every cycle.

like I said before, if you targeted a recruit before the Simmy then you are likely to win. Keep applying the AP.

shoe: yes battles and risks are a necessity to win HD & life. But let’s be real here, there are a lot of factors that need to be in your favor to stand a chance when you are second to the party for a recruit against an upper division school

If I’m already down “very high” to a Sim AI, but I really want this guy and have 6000 budget, should I go for it?

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 7:43:00 PM (view original):
If I’m already down “very high” to a Sim AI, but I really want this guy and have 6000 budget, should I go for it?

Shoot him a promised start and minutes. If you can't move the needle at all with that, then you will probably struggle to knock the Sim off.

Posted by zagsrulez on 9/12/2018 6:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 2:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by craigaltonw on 9/12/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):
Yes. You can win the battle. Especially if you use a promised start and/or promised minutes. The recruit will respond even more to promises if they have a preference “wants to play”.

At D3, you can get all D1 recruits. It’s a game of patience until the end of recruiting because human coach D1 or D2 will beat you almost always. But you can beat Sims.

There are also some gems at D2 level to recruit for your D3 team.

What if they don’t have “wants to play?” Will it still be a decent affect?

Yes, there will be a one times bonus when you give them minutes unlike when there is “wants to play” that bonus will carry every cycle.

like I said before, if you targeted a recruit before the Simmy then you are likely to win. Keep applying the AP.

shoe: yes battles and risks are a necessity to win HD & life. But let’s be real here, there are a lot of factors that need to be in your favor to stand a chance when you are second to the party for a recruit against an upper division school

"if you targeted a recruit before the Simmy then you are likely to win. Keep applying the AP."

Yup. Coming from behind against a sim from a lower division can be really difficult unless you have a great prestige and preferences. Step on their throats from the very beginning and don't let off.

Posted by zagsrulez on 9/12/2018 6:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 2:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by craigaltonw on 9/12/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):
Yes. You can win the battle. Especially if you use a promised start and/or promised minutes. The recruit will respond even more to promises if they have a preference “wants to play”.

At D3, you can get all D1 recruits. It’s a game of patience until the end of recruiting because human coach D1 or D2 will beat you almost always. But you can beat Sims.

There are also some gems at D2 level to recruit for your D3 team.

What if they don’t have “wants to play?” Will it still be a decent affect?

Yes, there will be a one times bonus when you give them minutes unlike when there is “wants to play” that bonus will carry every cycle.

like I said before, if you targeted a recruit before the Simmy then you are likely to win. Keep applying the AP.

shoe: yes battles and risks are a necessity to win HD & life. But let’s be real here, there are a lot of factors that need to be in your favor to stand a chance when you are second to the party for a recruit against an upper division school

Here’s what I was responding to:

”I don’t know how heavily they have targeted the recruit though because they’re just listed on the considering list but there hasn’t been a scholarship offered.”

Sim AIs just showing up on the list aren’t a worry. As I’ve said from the beginning, you want to get ahead early and stay ahead, you don’t want to try to make up ground from behind as a lower division School against sim. What he said implied he was ahead. In that case, there is no good reason for him to abandon ship.

If they are recruits he’s trying to get back in contention for, then yeah, time to call it a day and move on to the next guy.

What I have found is that you can make the SIM give up if you can stay far enough ahead. It seems like when they start to get close or ahead, they are more difficult to beat. Or if they are ahead. If that's the case, you would have to pass them by a lot, in my opinion to get them to give up. But I am not as familiar with D2 and D3 recruiting as some of the others. That's been my experience.

Posted by Benis on 9/12/2018 7:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 7:43:00 PM (view original):
If I’m already down “very high” to a Sim AI, but I really want this guy and have 6000 budget, should I go for it?

Shoot him a promised start and minutes. If you can't move the needle at all with that, then you will probably struggle to knock the Sim off.

Yeah, I just screwed up before by not attacking a few guys early and splitting up my points, but I don’t know what to do with my money now.

Posted by chapelhillne on 9/12/2018 8:11:00 PM (view original):
What I have found is that you can make the SIM give up if you can stay far enough ahead. It seems like when they start to get close or ahead, they are more difficult to beat. Or if they are ahead. If that's the case, you would have to pass them by a lot, in my opinion to get them to give up. But I am not as familiar with D2 and D3 recruiting as some of the others. That's been my experience.

What do you recommend I do if I’m behind on all my top priorities but I need to spend my money somewhere?

Posted by Sportsbulls on 9/12/2018 9:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by chapelhillne on 9/12/2018 8:11:00 PM (view original):
What I have found is that you can make the SIM give up if you can stay far enough ahead. It seems like when they start to get close or ahead, they are more difficult to beat. Or if they are ahead. If that's the case, you would have to pass them by a lot, in my opinion to get them to give up. But I am not as familiar with D2 and D3 recruiting as some of the others. That's been my experience.

What do you recommend I do if I’m behind on all my top priorities but I need to spend my money somewhere?

Go after other D3 humans. Find ones that you may have a prestige, preference, opening and/or distance advantage against. Maybe they've spent their money in other battles and are just sitting there hoping no one comes to challenge them. They may not be able to match your effort.

Ok, it’s just all my backups have no one except me going after them at this point.

If I have a top 200 ranked overall player who I have already given some attention for three cycles and now a D1 Sim AI just started going after them for one cycle. Should I go after this guy even more or back off? By the way, I am a D3 coach for Condoria, Moorhead.

Posted by JamesPAn on 9/12/2018 11:50:00 PM (view original):
If I have a top 200 ranked overall player who I have already given some attention for three cycles and now a D1 Sim AI just started going after them for one cycle. Should I go after this guy even more or back off? By the way, I am a D3 coach for Condoria, Moorhead.

I would recommend promising him a start/minutes and seeing if you can knock the sim down before it gets a foothold on the recruit. Typically, playing catch up against D1 SIMs can be tough if you are D3, but if you are there first and you can get a decent amount of effort down before the SIM, you will usually be in good shape.

Posted by Wales_ on 9/13/2018 12:12:00 AM (view original):

Posted by JamesPAn on 9/12/2018 11:50:00 PM (view original):
If I have a top 200 ranked overall player who I have already given some attention for three cycles and now a D1 Sim AI just started going after them for one cycle. Should I go after this guy even more or back off? By the way, I am a D3 coach for Condoria, Moorhead.

I would recommend promising him a start/minutes and seeing if you can knock the sim down before it gets a foothold on the recruit. Typically, playing catch up against D1 SIMs can be tough if you are D3, but if you are there first and you can get a decent amount of effort down before the SIM, you will usually be in good shape.

And how many AP would you recommend if I have two openings and later going to rescind a scholarship while I am only slightly going after one other player? The only reason I ask this is because of the fact I currently have not unlocked the promise start/minutes.