RPI is Bad (Not Rigged) Topic

Also, I want to say that I’m not like trying to brag on my team or say it’s better than those guys (it’s probably not) and I feel fine being where I am, but I just saw the RPI thing and I was kind of mad that RPI is still in the game. The NYU ranking makes a lot more sense now and Trentonjoe has a fantastic dynasty over there so props to him.
12/5/2018 8:08 PM
I didn't look at the schedules but winning games on the road boosts RIP much more than winning at home. So beating a team with a .5000 RIP on the road may be worth more than beating a team with a. 6000 at home (numbers completely made up but you get the point)
12/5/2018 9:19 PM
Posted by piman314 on 12/5/2018 9:19:00 PM (view original):
I didn't look at the schedules but winning games on the road boosts RIP much more than winning at home. So beating a team with a .5000 RIP on the road may be worth more than beating a team with a. 6000 at home (numbers completely made up but you get the point)
Every single game I’ve played has been on the road.
12/5/2018 9:51 PM
My guy, RPI is a mathematical formula that is openly displayed on the site, it is not rigged. It is, at best, a mediocre metric for ranking teams (especially after 8!!! games, talk about a small sample). The only ranking that matters in the projection report, and that only starts to matter 17 or 18 games into the season. Calm down about rankings less than 10 games into the season, if your team is good, you'll end up high on the projection report and win some NT games.
12/5/2018 11:23 PM
Posted by tkimble on 12/5/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):
My guy, RPI is a mathematical formula that is openly displayed on the site, it is not rigged. It is, at best, a mediocre metric for ranking teams (especially after 8!!! games, talk about a small sample). The only ranking that matters in the projection report, and that only starts to matter 17 or 18 games into the season. Calm down about rankings less than 10 games into the season, if your team is good, you'll end up high on the projection report and win some NT games.
Lol, I misused the word rigged. I just mean, RPI is bad. Beating the #1 team than the #360th team shouldn't be equal to beating the #130th and #131st teams. Seems like it's that way.
12/5/2018 11:31 PM
Yes, don't sweat rpi early on. I used to get frustrated with that as well. But it will all work itself out as more games are played. But.... your bad conference will drop your SOS and RPI a lot more than you want it to.

I have a team that's a contender every season. I'd say 3 out of the last 5 seasons, I finish non-con with RPI/SOS of 1/1. I'll run the table in conference play and I'll finish the season like 10/38 and get a 3 or 4 seed. It's part of the downfall of playing in a conference without multiple good humans.
12/6/2018 4:15 AM
I find the Projection Report to be the best assessment of overall team rankings. Lower RPIs and rankings aren’t always parallel to the Projection Report and actual tournament seedings.

I think RPI on here is better than team rankings, though. I guess, as in real life, it’s funny to watch an overhyped pre-season top 10 fall way out of grace, and out of the top 25.
12/6/2018 5:24 AM
Welp! Just jinxed myself and lost to a team I’d beat 9/10!
12/6/2018 9:14 AM
couple things...

RPI does not look ahead at future schedule.

the formula is what it is. what bulls stumbled on a couple of posts up is correct. when comparing 2 very good teams, a team that has more really bad teams on thier schedule will be hurt by the formula... even if they beat more good teams than the other guy. seems the biggest flaw of RPI as it relates to this game. it treats a win over #90rpi as being wayyyyyyy better than a win over 300rpi, and in reality if youve got a decent top20ish team you aint going to lose to either of those teams hardly ever. so in scheduling you have to try to figur eout how to keep the 150+ rpi teams off the schedule.


but, what others have said is true... projection report does a pretty darn good job of sorting all this out. at least good enough that teams end up about where they should be.

12/6/2018 9:24 AM
Posted by tkimble on 12/5/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):
My guy, RPI is a mathematical formula that is openly displayed on the site, it is not rigged. It is, at best, a mediocre metric for ranking teams (especially after 8!!! games, talk about a small sample). The only ranking that matters in the projection report, and that only starts to matter 17 or 18 games into the season. Calm down about rankings less than 10 games into the season, if your team is good, you'll end up high on the projection report and win some NT games.
this is correct - RPI is pure arithmetic. You can get a good rpi by playing teams that will win a bunch of games that you can beat
12/6/2018 9:43 AM
12/6/2018 9:48 AM
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When that player is playing 10 minutes per game, a team shouldn't have the top RPI. 8 Athleticism, 1 defense!
12/6/2018 10:01 AM
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Welp, after beating another good team in OT, I am back to having the #1 RPI! That will soon change as my conference has all but one sim team.
12/6/2018 2:39 PM
As I learned when I was in your position.... don't worry about it now. It'll fluctuate. Closer to the end of the season is when you'll care more about where you're at. At the end of non-con, you're not really settled in yet.
12/6/2018 2:56 PM
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