Posted by dino27 on 4/15/2019 12:55:00 AM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 4/15/2019 12:06:00 AM (view original):
Intermittent power sources are a false hope given our current energy storage capabilities. The only reason wind and solar power feel useful to people who own them is because the power they produce is such an insignificant portion of the power on the total grid that the changes to available power when they're at max capacity or 0% capacity is functionally meaningless.
also..i dont understand what you are trying to say.
The point is that wind turbines are irrelevant. We're nowhere near any of the popular "renewable" power sources being viable because A) they're intermittent, and we're not nearly good enough at storing power and B) they generally are impractical.
In the case of wind and hydroelectric power, wide open spaces for wind farms and waterfalls are generally not close enough to large urban centers to be an efficient source of power. Go look up the percentage of power on the US grid that's wasted just moving power from plants to end users. Then come back and tell me you think the right way to address the power supply is to build wind farms miles and miles from cities.
As a fairly irrelevant aside, the problem with solar panels is that they're horribly inefficient. This is a problem because of where the inefficiency comes into play. Solar panels are generally black. They are very efficient at absorbing light. What they aren't efficient at doing is actually converting that energy into electricity. They're generally under 12%. I don't consider myself a materials chemist, but I do work in a group that has a significant emphasis on developing materials for next-gen solar cells. State-of-the-art, expensive, news-worthy technology is like 16%. So what happens to the other 85+%? It turns into heat. Right now, with the number of solar panels we have, this isn't a problem. But if you start doing the math on what happens if we converted, say, 50% of the US electrical grid to solar, it's a massive contributor to global warming. Far worse than the carbon dioxide emission from burning fossil fuels. Carbon dioxide is a crappy greenhouse gas anyway. Water is actually much worse, but whistle-blowers can't sound a bunch of alarms about water in the atmosphere without sounding ridiculous.
The point is, right now the most realistic option for clean power is probably still nuclear. In the future maybe the technology will make something else reasonable. But right now, in spite of what popular science writing might want you to believe, that's simply not the case.