Terrible Recruit Dev Luck Topic

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5/1/2020 7:02 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 5/1/2020 4:33:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cubcub113 on 5/1/2020 1:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by gillispie1 on 5/1/2020 12:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cubcub113 on 4/30/2020 10:47:00 PM (view original):
I mean it doesn't really matter that much (although the mans is definitely not all-American caliber) just thought how it was interesting how I got near bottom growth on everything but speed. Also shoe I think 73-75 blue and 80-85 actually have a tendancy for you to get max growth more often proportionally.
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definitely not all american caliber? i tend to disagree - strongly. i mean granted, i really feel more comfortable if hes got 4 more per, saying shoe is 100% right. but shoe is 95% plus right as is.

in general, there's always been this massive misconception in the community about the importance of talent. its better than when i started, when the normal approach was 'coaching is useless its all about recruiting'. recruiting talent matters a ton on your way up near the top - but at the top, talent is not what separates the good from the great, and from the truly elite. its coaching. how well that talent is arranged, do you not just have talent but the skills you need to form a cohesive, quality team? that alone trumps more talent - by far. is your team setup making the most of your talent, are you nailing player development, are you putting in quality game planning in the post season? extra talent is vastly outmatched, at the high end.

in general, to be the pre-eminent program in a world, you do need borderline top 5 talent over that period. technically, if you are good enough, borderline top 25 talent can get the job done - so i'm leaving a good buffer in there to account for the fact that most folks are mere mortals, if you will. once you get to borderline top 5 talent, your potential gains from coaching dwarf any further talent improvement (although certain coaches are capable of replacing team planning with talent - as long as you still do really well on team setup and player development - this is acceptable - you basically make up for not arranging your talent well, but just having stupid amounts of it - although again, you are still going to get lit up in terms of title odds - doubled, perhaps - by significantly inferior teams who are beautifully put together).

this is where the understanding of abilities and what ratings are required to have strong abilities is essential. aejones says in his d2/d3 guide, the most important part of the game was player evaluation - i get what he means. OR often said the most important part is team building, essentially arranging talent and player development. i am more of a mind like OR but we are all trying to express the same thing - understanding what makes players and teams good is *vastly* more valuable than throwing ridiculous talent at the problem - especially in d1 where EEs will wreck you.

this player here, hes a strong defender and a strong scorer, and has amazing stamina. hes a worthy starter not only on a title seeker, but a huge title favorite. give him that +4 per and i'd be raving about the guy. with +4 per hes capable of being the #1 player on a huge title favorite team, pulling down 20mpg on great minutes with that elite stamina of his. top few player in the world caliber - what a monster! but obviously, without the 4 per hes still awesome.

going even further - i like guys like that, MORE than guys with more talent. throw that guy another 15 ath and passing, and he's gone. give me your guy and that 4 per - then stop - ill take stamina of course, by far the most valuable marginal rating for that player once he's got his 95 or so per. anything else? its EE bait - no thanks!! you want to win a few in a row - best to fill up on guys *exactly* like yours!!

so - let's flip this script from my endless rambling to something concrete and useful. what, precisely, do you feel like you need this player to do, for him to be a worthy starter on a title favorite caliber team? or at bare minimum, the greatest 3rd man SG/SF in the history of the universe? please don't talk to me about ratings - for your own sake - think about what ability you want him to be good at, what does he need to accomplish, that he cannot accomplish? what does he need to go on the court and do that he isn't already capable of doing?
He's a great player. Like a damn great player. There's no way in hell I would have replaced him with a 100/100/100/100/100/100 guy who left after 2 years given that Almanzar staying 4 years was pretty much the key to my master plan to win a title with Illinois next year. He's a guy I could count on to stay 4 years who will break into Illinois' record books for points and 3p%, who will (fingers crossed) be a starter on a national title contender next year. He only had a 3.2% chance of leaving according to my BigBoard simulator! That's incredible given he scored 13 PPG efficiently against #7 SOS for the #3 team in the country! That being said I just don't see all-american talent in him. The stamina is sick (I think I have 2 points left still) but he has a tendency to **** the bed against good defenders (look at the Minnesota game. yuck. And that was against a 90 at 85 sp 90 de guy...) because the Ath/Per/Bh are great and not elite. He's a great scorer, but he's just not an elite one I can count on. Obviously a great defender as well at the 2 but not as in love with him as you are girl. I've had guys on every title team I've had that I consider clearly better, and they were juniors when we won. You can't tell me there isn't a large difference between Almanzar and Bascom, Tatum, Parker, Hanson, Hartman. Hanson is probably the only one that is close to him.

First of all....before you chastise me for not remotely making an effort to develop stamina on those guys I know I was obviously doing something ridiculously wrong. Idk how I won title while leaving Tatum's stamina like 18 points short of where it should have been. Anyways, we will see how the squad performs next year.

It doesn't change the fact he improved 8 points in every black and 22 points in every blue though gil and shoe ;) To be clear I wasn't complaining genuinely that WIS was screwing me out of a title by not giving me 4 more points of ATH, the screwed comment was more of a sarcastic joke that his colors were just shockingly close to switching from the day I recruited him.
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those are some pretty amazing players you are throwing out there! in some cases like the 65 reb guard or the 90 passing guy, those guys bring something almanzar doesn't. but when you say 'i cant tell you there isnt a large difference between almanzar and....' - yes, i can / am telling you that - there is not a large difference between alamnzar and any of those guys, in general - it does depends what role they are filling, there are definitely better pgs than almanzar, and that 65 reb guy is a better sf, but sort of generic scoring sg? not really. you are growing his lp this year right? guys like alamanzar can and do lead some of the best teams ever.

precisely what i am saying is, if you see having guys like those others over almanzar as the primary driver of what separates a top few team in a d1 world from the greatest d1 teams ever, you are misjudging the nature of great players and great teams.

you really would need to upgrade several guys from almanzar-level to hartman-level, if you will, for it to add up to anything. a lot of the value that coaches find from these 'super players' - its really comes more in masking coaching mistakes/imperfections (perfection is impossible when arrangement of talent is considered part of coaching, which i do), than the raw talent coming through the sim engine formulas to produce better outcomes.
How much time should I put into a green LP when every other rating is red? 30 minutes? Isn't it negative past that? But not that I have other shooters I'd love to boost the LP to 60 by the NT and set him at +1 or even 0 depending on my lineup.

That's interesting for sure.
5/1/2020 7:06 PM
Girl: I'm also interested in what you mean by the arrangement of talent and what you think separates a top few team in a D1 world with the greatest D1 team ever.

Do you just mean having a team of cohesive players that support each other well? A great passing PG, a 2 or 3 that can shoot the lights out, and elite rebounding bigs?
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5/1/2020 7:10 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 5/1/2020 5:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shoe3 on 5/1/2020 5:14:00 PM (view original):
“but not as in love with him as you are girl.”

No one is going to talk about how cubbie just Goslinged gil?
what does that mean?
Not totally sure. ;)
5/1/2020 7:11 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 5/1/2020 5:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by shoe3 on 5/1/2020 5:14:00 PM (view original):
“but not as in love with him as you are girl.”

No one is going to talk about how cubbie just Goslinged gil?
what does that mean?
Don’t feel bad, he doesn’t know, either.
5/1/2020 10:47 PM
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