Posted by kcsundevil on 8/29/2020 5:43:00 PM (view original):
It's totally believable that kolby threw the game without fluff knowing until after.

seble seems to have reached that conclusion.

I have no problem with him banning all the accounts involved while the investigation was underway. Kolby can answer to fluff for that.

All's well that ends well. Let's move on.

Agreed.

Posted by p6453 on 8/29/2020 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by fluff_nasty on 8/29/2020 5:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by p6453 on 8/29/2020 5:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by fluff_nasty on 8/29/2020 5:29:00 PM (view original):
The investigation has been completed and I have been reinstated.

WIS Comish did their due diligence and determined that I did not violate the FPGs.

Hate it or love it, I'm back.

Hate me or love me, I don't care.

Can we please get the FPGs pinned on the forums and on the team page site???

Easy fix like I keep saying. If someone has a problem with posting the rules I would like to know why?

Well, no one is perfect...not even WIS. Enjoy the fact that any game you win will now be questioned. Any recruit you sign will have some suspicion as well. Yeah, real fun game for you.

I don't need your validation. Thanks

No, you certainly don't. You need to stop complaining about the FPG like a little *****. You're a ******* cheater looking to justify his cheating
because he couldn't find the rules. Or understand them. That's my guess. Maybe next time you need to win a NT game you'll do it without help.
You retiring? If so, ******* go.

I'm trying to HELP PREVENT COACHES FROM MAKING FUTURE VIOLATIONS

Why does everybody want to keep the rules locked up??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Posted by fluff_nasty on 8/29/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
Easy fix, can only have a positive impact going forward. I don't understand the push back I'm getting on this.

People are likely fighting with you on this because your BIL cheated and was kind of a tool regarding how he approached all of this. When he was claiming his innocence (and subsequently told people he was just joking about his innocence), he ruined both of your 'images'. It leads to people diminishing and disagreeing with everything you say or do for the sake of diminishing and disagreeing. In the grand scheme, it's pretty irrelevant.

I'm only one person but, assuming everything you've said to this point is true and Seble seems to have enough information to believe so, then you're cool in my book. I know you don't need others' validation but I wouldn't hold your achievements to a lesser value because of this weird mixup. Not only that but you're advocating for the rules to become more public - that's an awesome turnaround that I wouldn't have guessed to happen (especially since I've played this game for ~10 years and didn't know the rules actually existed). It makes me glad you got re-instated and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I know it's unlikely, but I wish/hope there was something Seble could do to re-run that NC against Benis (of course if Benis was cool with it too) as you don't deserve to have missed out on that title because of your dingus BIL. If you are planning on leaving HD for a little, I hope you sort whatever you've got going on and come back in a fresher mindset.

Why would I care about my situation? It is over.

I'm trying to make the FPGs more accessible to help ALL COACHES moving forward and to help prevent violations from being made by those who are unaware of the rules.

If you think everyone knows about the rules you are wrong.
Multiple coaches have posted during this saying they didn't know they existed.

I want to make sure there is no way a coach can miss them.

If everybody thinks violating the rules is egregious then lets help each other out and spread awareness of the rules so that we do not keep repeating

This is a positive change for the community. #freetheFPGs

Posted by kcsundevil on 8/29/2020 5:43:00 PM (view original):
It's totally believable that kolby threw the game without fluff knowing until after.

seble seems to have reached that conclusion.

I have no problem with him banning all the accounts involved while the investigation was underway. Kolby can answer to fluff for that.

All's well that ends well. Let's move on.

This

I still personally think Kolby should be banned, but agreed that fluff should be reinstated although I disagree with how he has handled this situation.

Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 6:57:00 PM (view original):
I still personally think Kolby should be banned, but agreed that fluff should be reinstated although I disagree with how he has handled this situation.

Kolby2025 has been banned.

If someone has an argument for why the FPGs shouldn't be pinned to the HD Fourms, and shouldn't be added to the help drop down menu, I would really like to hear why.

I'm still extremely confused that this isn't being supported.

No one is disagreeing with you man, we just still think what kolby and maybe you did was wrong regardless.

Fluff I don't hate ya. But you are just digging deeper. We're over it. You just keep us enticed now with fuel Haha. Lots of coaches aren't happy with this whole situation. (Not like anybody wants to beat you up! It's not that serious! But unhappy like..... "man, I wish no one in our HD gaming community did this" kind of unhappy. That's it man. The end).

But you keep saying "why do we all want the guidelines locked up?"...... just cuz they're not pinned doesn't mean we want them locked up. It's just that I don't think we all look at the situation and say, man we need to push for that to be pinned.

Why? Because not many of us do stuff that doesn't make sense to just being fairly proper! We're not pushing the boundaries to gain an edge. We're all just playing a game. BUT..... because of this situation, that most of us think is a bunch of crap, you've started to see a few people change their mind that were previously throwing eggs at you.

We'll work on getting it pinned. But please don't act like nothing happened here. This was a big one. You wanting to get it pinned so bad is not enough to change peopled opinions about what transpired. It's more of a cop out.

Again man, just let it go. Take it like a man. And whatever happens happens

Like I don't know how to say this in a better way but it just hurt your image how your BIL acted, and then how you acted after. I'd love for you to say "I see what your point of view is, but I genuinely didn't cheat and Kolby did and he should be banned," but instead you're taking this weird FPG should be pinned route to avoid blame its weird.

I agree with most people and find it weird and think your digging your grave more and it looks oddly suspicious you keep pushing the rules, you were validated and given your account back, if I were you, I’d be happy and let this all blow over and not keeping adding fuel to the fire. You act as if there are countless amount of rules, it’s basically don’t cheat...I mean it’s not that hard to understand, you pushing it so hard to avoid others from cheating, as if pinning the rules will deter this??

You can't expect people to follow the rules perfectly if they don't know what they are.

I just think the current placement of the rules are in a really really bad spot.

Multiple coaches admitted they didn't know about the rules.

Sounds like the majority of coaches on here want to leave them where they are and just say, oh don't worry, nobody else will ever wonder about the rules.

I'm just confused why we all can't simply be like, yeah, the rules are in a pretty weird spot, lets bring them up to the front and move on.