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Actually a q - does depth at a position influence a player's willingness to accept a redshirt? If so, that's another reason to change positions.
I don't know for sure, but I will say I can't ever remember a player rejecting a freshman redshirt when there were 3 players at his position.
I wouldn't think it matters much with freshman since they almost always take it anyway, barring promises.
I disagree with this a lot. I think the division matters. So (maybe) if you're talking about D1, then this may be true. But as a D2 coach, recruiting D1 pool players that are generally ALL elite for that level, it's rare I can get ANY freshman to take a redshirt. Especially if they had the wants to play preference.
I had this discussion with a coach recently. I assumed it was "a thing" in this game, where D1 pool players with "wants to play" will NEVER accept a redshirt as a freshman if they sign with a D2 school. I've never seen it happen in my career. And I've tried probably 50+ times. If anyone has evidence that this is false, and has screenshot proof, I'd like to see so I can know for sure going forward.
But often times, if you're recruiting a kid that is 580 ovr to D2, and maybe ranked as a top 300 and top 50 by position, he "knows" his role on the team to an extent. And isn't accepting a redshirt, since he is likely the future cornerstone of your team. I'm NOT saying that players "think". They don't. But I am saying that elite players are so much more difficult to get a redshirt on, when their on a team that is much less prestigious than their ability. And I don't mean just the letter grade, I'm talking about division levels also.
Obviously I'm aware that it's fairly easy to redshirt SOME players from the D1 pool at D2. But the better they are, the more difficult it is. (And my theory, if they had the wants to play preference, it's 100% certain they WON'T accept a redshirt..... until someone shows me otherwise)
Well apparently these here forums don't allow me to attach phone screenshots and the links say "recruit info no longer available."
I actually do this a lot with minimal issue...d1 recruit wants to play, but I land them without promising anything OR notifying of redshirt. Then when they show up, abt 50% of the time they actually DO accept it.
Example from today is Robbie Klotz, 273 ovr (#70pf) d1 recruit with a playing time preference. He just accepted his redshirt at Columbus St without a problem. Sitemail me your phone# or email or fb and I can show you proof if you don't believe me.