LEAGUE #3
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Owner	…	Overall	…	Hitting	…	Pitching	…	H-Yr	…	P-Yr	…	Free Agent	…	Pos	…	FA Salary
REDCPED		1		12		1		1986		1981		Andre Dawson		OF		7,611,310
NOCOMM999		12		9		4		1990		1988		Zane Smith		SP		3,208,525
KSTOBER		8		7		6		1989		1980		Scott Garrelts		SP		6,276,760
CHISOCK		6		5		8		1987		1977		Ted Simmons		C		6,938,311
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SCHWARZE		4		3		10		1985		1987		Dwight Gooden		SP		12,251,170
MARKEKING		5		4		9		1980		1990		Lenny Dykstra		OF		7,837,358
RONTHEGENIUS		7		6		7		1981		1983		Bill Gullickson		SP		7,506,861
WALLYPIPP		9		8		5		1984		1989		Dwight Gooden		SP		8,232,727
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TOYSBOYS		2		1		12		1977		1982		Tom Seaver		SP		9,350,639
THEJUICE6		3		2		11		1976		1984		Randy Jones		SP		9,288,171
DARTHDURRON		10		11		2		1979		1986		J.R. Richard		SP		10,160,746
PMARS2001		11		10		3		1978		1985		Tim Raines		OF		7,271,130
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		Overall		Hitting		Pitching		H-Yr		P-Yr		Free Agent		Pos		FA Salary
3DAYROTATION		11		6		7		1986		1977		Roger Clemens		SP		10,055,896
JE3RD		9		8		5		1988		1985		Roger Clemens		SP		8,640,967
MLLAMA54		1		12		1		1989		1978		Bret Saberhagen		SP		10,079,297
FIRESALT		5		10		3		1987		1990		Rickey Henderson		OF		8,303,223
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YBJSPORTS		12		5		8		1985		1987		Wade Boggs		3B		9,238,471
THEJUICE6		10		7		6		1984		1979		Ray Searage		RP		1,845,992
STEVEIZZY		7		3		10		1980		1988		Mike Norris		SP		9,591,219
JTPSOPS		3		1		12		1982		1984		Don Sutton		SP		6,962,030
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CHISOCK		8		4		9		1977		1983		Frank Tanana		SP		7,067,137
DARTHDURRON		2		11		2		1979		1981		Tommy John		SP		7,678,768
SCHWARZE		4		2		11		1978		1980		Mike Caldwell		SP		8,894,610
FF09		6		9		4		1976		1989		Frank Tanana		SP		9,451,798

LEAGUE #4
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Owner	…	Overall	…	Hitting	…	Pitching	…	H-Yr	…	P-Yr	…	Free Agent	…	Pos	…	FA Salary
CRAZYAMOS		3		1		12		1973		1973		Tom Seaver		SP		10,300,892
SCHWARZE		2		11		2		1974		1966		Ron Santo		3B		7,821,821
CALHOOP		11		5		8		1975		1971		Joe Torre		3B		8,199,349
FARLEYFUSTLE		10		3		10		1972		1967		Steve Carlton		SP		13,925,133
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CHISOCK		9		6		7		1970		1964		Tom Seaver		SP		9,763,388
PMARS2001		12		4		9		1969		1975		Davey Lopes		2B		5,727,579
GLOWGUY		4		10		3		1966		1965		Juan Marichal		SP		12,390,166
REDCPED		1		12		1		1967		1968		Pete Rose		OF		7,081,886
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JOERAT1		8		7		6		1962		1972		Sandy Koufax		SP		6,657,093
THEJUICE6		6		9		4		1964		1969		Sandy Koufax		SP		9,534,665
DARTHDURRON		7		8		5		1965		1974		Juan Marichal		SP		10,387,386
NOCOMM999		5		2		11		1963		1963		Sandy Koufax		SP		14,405,049
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		Overall		Hitting		Pitching		H-Yr		P-Yr		Free Agent		Pos		FA Salary
SPECSMAN		12		8		5		1973		1975		Rod Carew		2B		6,969,669
TOYSBOYS		10		6		7		1970		1963		Ken Sanders		RP		3,890,341
THEBUBBAQ		5		11		2		1975		1963		Carl Yastrzemski		OF		6,397,170
3DAYROTATION		11		7		6		1971		1971		Vida Blue		SP		13,185,356
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HOOPSRUS		7		4		9		1968		1972		Denny McLain		SP		11,732,050
THEJUICE6		9		9		4		1967		1966		Harmon Killebrew		3B		5,607,932
JTPSOPS		8		5		8		1966		1969		Rico Petrocelli		SS		9,110,922
RAZORCLAMS		2		2		11		1969		1974		Fritz Peterson		SP		9,011,858
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SCHWARZE		1		1		12		1961		1961		Dick Donovan		SP		5,618,558
KSTOBER		3		12		1		1963		1968		Boog Powell		1B		4,040,505
PEDROCERRANO		4		3		10		1964		1973		Dean Chance		SP		11,509,007
MLLAMA54		6		10		3		1962		1967		Frank Robinson		OF		5,791,401

LEAGUE #5
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Owner	…	Overall	…	Hitting	…	Pitching	…	H-Yr	…	P-Yr	…	Free Agent	…	Pos	…	FA Salary
CALHOOP		1		12		1		1960		1950		Stan Musial		OF		8,226,768
TOYSBOYS		7		8		5		1959		1954		Vada Pinson		OF		7,741,459
JOERAT1		4		2		11		1957		1957		Stan Musial		1B		7,347,847
JTPSOPS		3		11		2		1956		1952		Stan Musial		OF		8,775,123
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KSTOBER		6		9		4		1955		1948		Stan Musial		OF		13,968,904
SCHWARZE		2		1		12		1951		1960		Robin Roberts		SP		9,857,782
GLOWGUY		11		5		8		1953		1951		Harvey Haddix		SP		8,568,776
STEVEIZZY		8		3		10		1954		1946		Robin Roberts		SP		10,573,698
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THEJUICE6		9		7		6		1950		1953		Stan Musial		OF		7,860,431
PMARS2001		10		4		9		1949		1947		Dave Koslo		SP		6,356,762
DARTHDURRON		5		10		3		1947		1956		Ewell Blackwell		SP		8,536,452
3DAYROTATION		12		6		7		1948		1958		Willie Mays		OF		9,448,653
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		Overall		Hitting		Pitching		H-Yr		P-Yr		Free Agent		Pos		FA Salary
YBJSPORTS		3		12		1		1958		1954		Ted Williams		OF		8,170,435
RONTHEGENIUS		9		6		7		1957		1952		Billy Goodman		2B		5,042,472
THEJUICE6		5		11		2		1955		1951		Billy Pierce		SP		6,942,523
MARKEKING		6		4		9		1956		1959		Whitey Ford		SP		7,192,211
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GLOWGUY		10		7		6		1953		1948		Lou Boudreau		SS		12,940,084
DARTHDURRON		11		9		4		1954		1956		Ned Garver		SP		6,891,816
JRIG21		4		3		10		1950		1950		Ed Lopat		SP		6,444,888
CHISOCK		12		8		5		1952		1958		Bobby Shantz		SP		8,977,320
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PEDROCERRANO		7		5		8		1948		1949		Nels Potter		RP		3,516,678
NOCOMM999		2		2		11		1949		1957		Roy Sievers		OF		6,257,296
SCHWARZE		1		1		12		1946		1953		Bob Feller		SP		12,950,546
MLLAMA54		8		10		3		1947		1946		Mickey Vernon		1B		6,305,225

LEAGUE #6
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Owner	…	Overall	…	Hitting	…	Pitching	…	H-Yr	…	P-Yr	…	Free Agent	…	Pos	…	FA Salary
SCHWARZE		6		9		4		1943		1933		Whit Wyatt		SP		7,256,564
STEVEIZZY		5		2		11		1941		1937		Elmer Riddle		SP		7,087,047
DARTHDURRON		4		10		3		1940		1942		Claude Passeau		SP		9,433,351
GLOWGUY		9		6		7		1944		1934		Paul Waner		OF		8,229,564
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3DAYROTATION		3		11		2		1938		1935		Arky Vaughan		SS		12,625,107
CHISOCK		12		4		9		1939		1940		Stan Hack		3B		6,832,660
CALHOOP		10		3		10		1936		1931		Van Mungo		SP		9,748,992
JOERAT1		8		7		6		1937		1943		Van Mungo		SP		5,752,390
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JTPSOPS		2		1		12		1932		1936		Red Lucas		SP		9,153,143
THEJUICE6		7		8		5		1934		1945		Tommy Holmes		OF		8,704,192
KSTOBER		11		5		8		1935		1941		Arky Vaughan		SS		4,053,408
REDCPED		1		12		1		1931		1944		Dixie Walker		OF		6,201,518
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		Overall		Hitting		Pitching		H-Yr		P-Yr		Free Agent		Pos		FA Salary
RSWIFT30		11		5		8		1940		1939		Bob Johnson		OF		7,132,753
RONTHEGENIUS		9		7		6		1942		1937		Tex Hughson		SP		8,068,686
JE3RD		10		4		9		1941		1945		Bob Feller		SP		9,515,200
TOYSBOYS		1		1		12		1939		1936		Bob Feller		SP		10,600,369
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MARKEKING		8		3		10		1937		1941		Cecil Travis		SS		7,072,650
KSTOBER		7		8		5		1936		1942		Wally Judnich		OF		6,650,733
DARTHDURRON		3		11		2		1938		1944		Dutch Leonard		SP		6,993,735
PMARS2001		12		6		7		1935		1935		Mel Harder		SP		8,586,411
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MLLAMA54		4		10		3		1931		1940		Lefty Gomez		SP		8,021,729
NOCOMM999		2		12		1		1933		1943		Luke Appling		SS		6,906,407
CHISOCK		6		2		11		1932		1933		Lefty Grove		SP		9,246,505
SCHWARZE		5		9		4		1934		1931		Lefty Gomez		SP		10,023,121

LEAGUE #7
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Owner	…	Overall	…	Hitting	…	Pitching	…	H-Yr	…	P-Yr	…	Free Agent	…	Pos	…	FA Salary
DARTHDURRON		9		6		7		1930		1924		George Grantham		2B		4,340,853
REDCPED		4		9		4		1928		1917		Rogers Hornsby		SS		6,409,568
KSTOBER		11		5		8		1929		1927		Red Lucas		SP		8,646,511
GLOWGUY		10		3		10		1927		1925		Red Lucas		SP		8,203,325
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PEDROCERRANO		6		7		6		1924		1920		Dazzy Vance		SP		11,875,690
THEJUICE6		12		4		9		1925		1926		Dazzy Vance		SP		8,605,705
SPECSMAN		7		1		12		1926		1930		Pete Alexander		SP		4,125,734
MLLAMA54		2		11		2		1923		1918		Edd Roush		OF		5,805,318
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CALHOOP		1		12		1		1920		1919		Gavvy Cravath		OF		3,836,526
SCHWARZE		5		8		5		1921		1916		Babe Adams		SP		5,461,870
RSWIFT30		3		10		3		1922		1923		Cy Williams		OF		6,764,862
STEVEIZZY		8		2		11		1919		1928		Babe Adams		SP		12,758,623
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		Overall		Hitting		Pitching		H-Yr		P-Yr		Free Agent		Pos		FA Salary
SAKABAKBRG		5		2		11		1928		1921		Ty Cobb		OF		8,493,798
JTPSOPS		4		1		12		1927		1930		Ted Lyons		SP		10,282,049
WINTERHAWK		11		8		5		1929		1920		Joe Jackson		OF		8,653,483
THEJUICE6		8		4		9		1930		1922		Whit Wyatt		RP		2,165,963
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SCHWARZE		3		10		3		1926		1918		Ty Cobb		OF		9,965,488
PMARS2001		10		6		7		1922		1928		Red Faber		SP		10,745,753
CHISOCK		6		9		4		1923		1919		George Sisler		1B		5,991,939
DARTHDURRON		12		7		6		1925		1927		Ted Blankenship		SP		6,790,777
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KSTOBER		2		11		2		1919		1916		Walter Johnson		SP		13,565,797
SCHWARZE		7		3		10		1921		1924		Red Faber		SP		10,611,401
FARLEYFUSTLE		9		5		8		1920		1926		Walter Johnson		SP		4,710,323
3DAYROTATION		1		12		1		1918		1917		Ty Cobb		OF		11,838,216

LEAGUE #8
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Owner	…	Overall	…	Hitting	…	Pitching	…	H-Yr	…	P-Yr	…	Free Agent	…	Pos	…	FA Salary
WINTERHAWK		11		5		8		1911		1911		Honus Wagner		SS		6,050,416
PMARS2001		2		12		1		1914		1909		Ed Konetchy		1B		4,539,566
STEVEIZZY		4		11		2		1913		1906		Sherry Magee		OF		6,144,495
GLOWGUY		8		3		10		1912		1903		Jimmy Sheckard		OF		7,464,219
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DARTHDURRON		5		10		3		1906		1905		Honus Wagner		SS		8,964,654
JE3RD		9		7		6		1909		1907		Christy Mathewson		SP		15,481,095
SAKABAKBRG		6		9		4		1908		1914		Zack Wheat		OF		5,811,730
CHISOCK		7		8		5		1910		1908		Honus Wagner		SS		10,312,668
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PEDROCERRANO		3		2		11		1901		1902		Al Orth		SP		11,178,884
NOCOMM999		10		6		7		1905		1904		Honus Wagner		SS		6,856,030
SCHWARZE		1		1		12		1903		1913		Deacon Phillippe		SP		10,705,408
FARLEYFUSTLE		12		4		9		1902		1912		Joe McGinnity		SP		5,486,751
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		Overall		Hitting		Pitching		H-Yr		P-Yr		Free Agent		Pos		FA Salary
DARTHDURRON		8		5		8		1915		1903		Kid Elberfeld		SS		4,553,680
CRAZYAMOS		4		2		11		1913		1902		Walter Johnson		SP		21,486,952
SCHWARZE		2		1		12		1912		1913		Ed Walsh		SP		13,004,563
JTPSOPS		3		11		2		1914		1912		Joe Jackson		OF		9,740,171
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THEJUICE6		5		3		10		1911		1904		Harry Davis		1B		3,525,033
RSWIFT30		10		6		7		1909		1906		George Stone		OF		8,423,284
THEBUBBAQ		9		9		4		1906		1905		Harry Bay		OF		5,235,354
REDCPED		6		10		3		1910		1909		Walter Johnson		SP		15,947,469
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RAZORCLAMS		12		8		5		1901		1914		Tris Speaker		OF		9,362,303
CALHOOP		1		12		1		1904		1910		Jack Chesbro		SP		17,306,884
3DAYROTATION		11		7		6		1903		1908		Ty Cobb		OF		5,377,939
KSTOBER		7		4		9		1902		1915		Bill Bernhard		SP		9,573,373

Surprised to see a few FA under $4M.

Me too , but then again - I didn't review the options for those teams.

The average salary of all 192 free agents is $8.4 million. The average of my 20 free agents (mostly starting pitchers) is $9.3 million. Of those with more than 3 teams, the highest average FA salaries are...

SteveIzzy $10.6 million (6 teams)
3dayrotation $10.3 million (8 teams)
redcped $9.8 million (6 teams)
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The lowest average (with 4+ teams) is thejuice6, at $6.4 million (12 teams).

I'm sure this depends on if you are using hitting vs pitching free agents.

And of course, salary doesn't fully correlate with the quality of the free agent. Maybe I could have spent more on my 2016 NL pitching free agent, but it's hard to beat 2016 Kershaw for quality.

Also, need matters. I could have spent $15.4 million on 1980 George Brett, except I needed a quality SP instead, so only spent $9.0 million on Mike Caldwell. It's possible some of the $3-4 million high quality RPs selected were needed more than a slighty above average $6-7M starting pitcher.

That being said, is Ray Searage the absolute best use of the valuable free agent spot? He has the lowest ERC# among pitchers available, but what about quantity of innings?

Yes, need is sometimes the critical factor. I almost used a slightly above average Dave Concepcion who is maybe a $5m player. Sometimes your only options in the pen, catcher or middle infield are pretty bad.

When I get time, I will also do regression analysis on FA salary vs draft position. I know it was true for me, but probably many others as well, but I bet the earlier draft picks have a higher average FA salary, since some of those selections were chosen specifically because of the high-priced stud free agent option. Those picking at the end of the first round might still be able to get a decent free agent, but probably not the high priced mega-studs.

Posted by redcped on 10/1/2021 4:48:00 PM (view original):
Yes, need is sometimes the critical factor. I almost used a slightly above average Dave Concepcion who is maybe a $5m player. Sometimes your only options in the pen, catcher or middle infield are pretty bad.

Hence, this is how Ray Searage came to be...

lol

Hey, I know it's only 15 games into the season, but....

Ray Searage is the leading vote-getter for A.L. Fireman in his league! Could I have found a diamond in the rough?!?

Now begin the forum jinx...

I ran a quick regression analysis through 27 games. I compared draft position (i.e., 1 thru 12) with wins. The correlation coefficient is almost zero (slightly positive .08). So basically, the difference between having the top pick and the last pick in a league is 0.8 wins (13.9 vs 13.1).

Here is the run scoring environment for each league.

League	Years	Avg Runs	Rank
----------------	-------------------	----------------	------------
1-NL	2006-2020	5.02	10
1-AL	2006-2020	5.16	7
2-NL	1991-2005	5.47	4
2-AL	1991-2005	5.50	3
3-NL	1976-1990	5.34	5
3-AL	1976-1990	4.98	12
4-NL	1961-1990	4.55	14
4-AL	1961-1990	4.65	13
5-NL	1946-1960	5.23	6
5-AL	1946-1960	5.12	8
6-NL	1931-1945	5.06	9
6-AL	1931-1945	6.33	1
7-NL	1916-1930	5.02	11
7-AL	1916-1930	5.86	2
8-NL	1901-1915	4.54	15
8-AL	1901-1915	4.35	16