Posted by Fregoe on 3/6/2022 4:35:00 PM (view original):
How many people need to sign a petition to get them to listen. I’ll ask Tarek tomorrow but I don’t think he has any pull anymore.

not sure if you've talked to Tarek, but last time I talked with him, he said he rarely talked to Seble and now that Seble is out, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have much pull at all. I'd love to get them to do something to spark some interest. Especially with March Madness starting.

Posted by fd343ny on 3/7/2022 1:55:00 PM (view original):
admin will likely say that all worlds have to be the same - one engine - one scheme

On the football side, when adlorenz was there, he was talking about launching a new game alongside the existing GD. That’s basically what I’m talking about. If it’s just another world that runs exactly like the 10 existing worlds, at this point my vote is no. There are plenty of wolds and plenty of jobs. Any short term boost will be small considering attrition from other worlds, and offset in the long run as the D1 situation shakes out.

If they want to launch an exciting new thing with career caps, no baseline, and (my favorite) user relegation so many programs can move around (while some power conference teams would be anchored to certain conferences, of course), I am completely for that.

I would like another 2-a-day.
It's got to be named after John Thompson.

Posted by jfoges on 3/7/2022 2:15:00 PM (view original):
If everyone was starting in D3 (for however many seasons required), wouldn't there be an unbelievable amount of talent that ends up there in the first couple years of recruiting? If there aren't humans in D1, what do the first few years of recruiting look like from the lower levels?

Well back then it was dropdown/pulldown, was only 1 season needed at D1 but 4 at D2. Regardless yes, the recruiting was very different as I'm sure it would be now, at every level you were able to recruit much higher-level players than normal as we were only competing against sim is. Back then we had to pull down top D1 recruits at low-level schools and that was certainly a thing many took advantage of. Same thing with game planning at low D1, guys made runs against teams they had no business beating. There were a ton of things that popped up like that but it was all a lot of fun, a completely new and unique experience.

Posted by tdiddy3 on 3/7/2022 2:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Fregoe on 3/6/2022 4:35:00 PM (view original):
How many people need to sign a petition to get them to listen. I’ll ask Tarek tomorrow but I don’t think he has any pull anymore.

not sure if you've talked to Tarek, but last time I talked with him, he said he rarely talked to Seble and now that Seble is out, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have much pull at all. I'd love to get them to do something to spark some interest. Especially with March Madness starting.

I talk to him every day. I was joking though. I dont think he even cares whats happening. He is Very tunned into his new company.

Posted by npb7768 on 3/7/2022 3:51:00 PM (view original):
I would like another 2-a-day.
It's got to be named after John Thompson.

Naw .. Krzyzewski. I mean, as a Kentucky fan, I absolutely hate Duke. But, I have to at least give Coach K his due. If we get a new world, it should have his name.

I voted no, although it does seem now that I look at the worlds, most of the D1 schools are full in the major conferences. But the only thing that a new world has is a race to the top. After that is finished, it is same ol', same ol'.

Posted by hughesjr on 3/8/2022 6:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by npb7768 on 3/7/2022 3:51:00 PM (view original):
I would like another 2-a-day.
It's got to be named after John Thompson.

Naw .. Krzyzewski. I mean, as a Kentucky fan, I absolutely hate Duke. But, I have to at least give Coach K his due. If we get a new world, it should have his name.

I voted no, although it does seem now that I look at the worlds, most of the D1 schools are full in the major conferences. But the only thing that a new world has is a race to the top. After that is finished, it is same ol', same ol'.

I think it also gives users a chance to set their sites on things like, # of draft picks. All time wins, I know I am kicking myself for taking the hiatus I did as it moved way down the list of some stats I was chasing at the time. It would also probably be a reality check for some coaches who have been used to playing with an A prestige :)

Posted by jfoges on 3/7/2022 2:15:00 PM (view original):
If everyone was starting in D3 (for however many seasons required), wouldn't there be an unbelievable amount of talent that ends up there in the first couple years of recruiting? If there aren't humans in D1, what do the first few years of recruiting look like from the lower levels?

i have wondered about this, too. in the olden days, you were capped on recruits so you had to work your way up to mid d1 to recruit the 5*s. plus that journey took real time, 10 seasons or so. seems like the start of new worlds would be relative chaos now.

Posted by gillispie on 3/8/2022 11:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jfoges on 3/7/2022 2:15:00 PM (view original):
If everyone was starting in D3 (for however many seasons required), wouldn't there be an unbelievable amount of talent that ends up there in the first couple years of recruiting? If there aren't humans in D1, what do the first few years of recruiting look like from the lower levels?

i have wondered about this, too. in the olden days, you were capped on recruits so you had to work your way up to mid d1 to recruit the 5*s. plus that journey took real time, 10 seasons or so. seems like the start of new worlds would be relative chaos now.

I would be very excited to see how it goes. Definitely a fun sort of chaos.

How many active users would actually get into the New World? I feel like the last few worlds that opened were 100 full at D3 for the first season? Not 100% sure.

I'd join any and every world that is a 1x. Even if they made 40 new worlds. But I voted no. And I'm against a new world really. There's just no point in opening one. Just a cheap thrill that doesn't last. Maybe if I was a rookie and had no shot at elite schools at this point, I'd feel different. But as is, a new world does nothing after about 1 year. Race to the top, things end up just the way are now, and then it just becomes exactly like the others. I see no point in that.

In regards to 1x, why is 7 worlds not enough, but 8 is?
if 2x, why is 3 worlds not enough, but 4 is?

Posted by Benis on 3/7/2022 12:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by StillWaters on 3/7/2022 12:39:00 PM (view original):
Close two ... open one for the displaced coaches ONLY. Strict enforcement of one team per world.

If that works, after five seasons or so do it again, plus open the first new world to everyone, with improved hiring/firing.

Simply making ghost towns more ghostly with a new world makes no sense at all. At least this way competition would be improved overall.

I have never been a fan of closing worlds. It will only **** people off and likely cause them to drop teams.

Of course it might, I don't disagree. And if you only read the first two words of my post, your answer was adequate. But I suspect that for a shot at a semi-private (limited access) new world, a lot of that complaint would go away. I actually have concern that it would turn out to be unfair for the other users, the ones who don't get in on the ground floor.

And besides, I'm looking at it from the point of view of what could be good for the game, not the selfish interests of a privileged few users. And making more ghost towns is clearly not in the best interests of the game.

Closing worlds shouldn’t be part of any discussion. Lots of things to do before they even think about that.

Posted by StillWaters on 3/8/2022 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 3/7/2022 12:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by StillWaters on 3/7/2022 12:39:00 PM (view original):
Close two ... open one for the displaced coaches ONLY. Strict enforcement of one team per world.

If that works, after five seasons or so do it again, plus open the first new world to everyone, with improved hiring/firing.

Simply making ghost towns more ghostly with a new world makes no sense at all. At least this way competition would be improved overall.

I have never been a fan of closing worlds. It will only **** people off and likely cause them to drop teams.

Of course it might, I don't disagree. And if you only read the first two words of my post, your answer was adequate. But I suspect that for a shot at a semi-private (limited access) new world, a lot of that complaint would go away. I actually have concern that it would turn out to be unfair for the other users, the ones who don't get in on the ground floor.

And besides, I'm looking at it from the point of view of what could be good for the game, not the selfish interests of a privileged few users. And making more ghost towns is clearly not in the best interests of the game.

I have no doubt that you want what is best for the game. That's where I'm coming from too. I just don't think this idea would improve HD in the long run.

You mention that you don't want more ghost towns but isn't that what would happen if you closed down a world and only allowed those users to join a new world. You're going to have fewer users in this exclusive world which would be very ghost town like, no?

I just can't imagine too many people who have spent real life years to reach their "dream job" being totally cool with having their team pulled from them and told that they "get" to start over. And even if they didn't choose my world to do this to, what's to say they won't do it to me next time. So it's just going to upset and discourage everyone.

The most likely end result of this experiment is lower user populations and even lower confidence in HD long term. Why continue to invest money on a team when it could be shut down on a whim by the developer?

Posted by Benis on 3/8/2022 3:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by StillWaters on 3/8/2022 1:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 3/7/2022 12:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by StillWaters on 3/7/2022 12:39:00 PM (view original):
Close two ... open one for the displaced coaches ONLY. Strict enforcement of one team per world.

If that works, after five seasons or so do it again, plus open the first new world to everyone, with improved hiring/firing.

Simply making ghost towns more ghostly with a new world makes no sense at all. At least this way competition would be improved overall.

I have never been a fan of closing worlds. It will only **** people off and likely cause them to drop teams.

Of course it might, I don't disagree. And if you only read the first two words of my post, your answer was adequate. But I suspect that for a shot at a semi-private (limited access) new world, a lot of that complaint would go away. I actually have concern that it would turn out to be unfair for the other users, the ones who don't get in on the ground floor.

And besides, I'm looking at it from the point of view of what could be good for the game, not the selfish interests of a privileged few users. And making more ghost towns is clearly not in the best interests of the game.

I have no doubt that you want what is best for the game. That's where I'm coming from too. I just don't think this idea would improve HD in the long run.

You mention that you don't want more ghost towns but isn't that what would happen if you closed down a world and only allowed those users to join a new world. You're going to have fewer users in this exclusive world which would be very ghost town like, no?

I just can't imagine too many people who have spent real life years to reach their "dream job" being totally cool with having their team pulled from them and told that they "get" to start over. And even if they didn't choose my world to do this to, what's to say they won't do it to me next time. So it's just going to upset and discourage everyone.

The most likely end result of this experiment is lower user populations and even lower confidence in HD long term. Why continue to invest money on a team when it could be shut down on a whim by the developer?

I am totally against shutting down worlds. But to be fair he said shut down 2 and fill the new one with the user from both. Which would reduce ghost towns.

I am team new world though. No one would be forced to join. And if they used the influx of $ this world would generate to market the product maybe it would benefit all worlds.