Posted by midknight on 2/6/2025 8:27:00 PM (view original):
I'll play - sounds interesting.

A couple of questions:

1. Will the initial draft be a snake draft?
2. Regarding the 54 shorted players, instead of $200K players, would you consider allowing players from 1984 with salaries up to $500-$750? No studs, but a little more respectable backup players. They would not be held over season to season.

I did a little research and this is what I found and kinda decided.

1. There are plenty of PA and IP, just not bodies. Each team should have an average of over 800 PA per position. Now, I realize someone might take two 2b or something like that but there's enough PA to go around for everyone.
2. The reason there aren't enough bodies is because the MLB roster wasn't 25 in 1904. The Giants actually had 25 (or 27 I can't remember) players over the season but only 20 of them have enough PA or IP to make the WIS database. Interestingly enough, I did learn the HOF'er Jim O'Rourke played on that team. He was 53. He got a hit. He also had a law degree from Yale. His wikipedia page is interesting. Just saying.
3. I am in the process of putting together a list of players to be "roster fillers". They are all bad but, I don't know, playable? You'll only want to play them as a last resort. I don't like the idea of AAA in this league or really any players that could somehow contribute. I want the old timers to play. The parameters I am using for the list are:

• Last season in the WIS database (I don't want anyone, and I mean me, getting confused and thinking you, I, can keep them)
• No HR's
• D in Fielding
• low OBP and BA
• Nothing approaching league average in ability

4. We will all use these guys to be roster fillers. There will be no restrictions on using them but you won't want to.
5. I'll post the dudes later today or tomorrow.

Here are the universal scrubs. You can use these guys to fill out rosters.

Player	Team	B	PA/162	HR	AVG	AB/162	OBP	SLG	SO/100	SPD	Salary	C	1B	2B	3B	SS	OF
Poquette, Tom	1982 Kansas City Royals	L	69	0	0.145	62	0.206	0.161	8.06	72	$203,278	--	--	--	--	--	D/C-
Berardino, Johnny	1952 Pittsburgh Pirates	R	108	0	0.125	93	0.245	0.17	15.91	63	$213,389	--	D-/D-	D/D-	D+/D-	D/D-	--
Oldfield, Dave	1886 Washington Nationals	S	103	0	0.141	96	0.197	0.169	21.13	47	$219,346	D/A/D-	--	--	--	D-/D-	D-/D+
Barton, Daric	2014 Oakland Athletics	L	64	0	0.158	57	0.234	0.175	24.56	53	$204,121	--	D/D-	--	--	--	--
Schmees, George	1952 St. Louis Browns	L	67	0	0.131	65	0.159	0.18	29.51	70	$201,083	--	D-/D-	--	--	--	D/D-
Player	Team	T	IP/162	W	L	SV	ERA	WHIP	OAV	K/9	IP/G	BB/9	Salary	F/R
Wiltse, Snake	1903 New York Highlanders	L	31	0	3	1	5.4	1.64	0.33	2.16	6.25	2.16	$217,950	B/C
Jordan, Taylor	2014 Washington Nationals	R	26	0	3	0	5.61	1.64	0.309	5.96	5.13	2.81	$221,792	B/D

A little more digging found that only 43(ish) players leave the league in 1904 and 108 will join 1905. That puts us over the magic #. I don't think the universal scrubs will be needed much if any after that.

Count me as a wannabe

I can do that.

I'm in

Awesome! Thanks man!

Just some random thoughts in the player pool:

1. there are more Patsy’s and Claude’s than I thought there would be-in 1904.
2. I am really interested to see how the modern guys (I am looking at you Tim Wallach) with low BA’s but 30ish HRs do. I think there’s going to be a lot of doubles.
3. “Wahoo” Sam Crawford got his name because he’s from Wahoo, NE.
4. I have no idea how to rank/rate the pitchers. The 1904 guys don’t walk anyone and the hr/9 is sooo low. I feel a little like I am guessing.
5. I want Dwight Gooden to dominate so bad.
6. I had forgotten how good Don Mattingly was.
7. I fancy myself a bit of a baseball historian but I had no idea Sherry Magee was a person and so darn good at hitting a baseball.

That is all, expect random musing like this in the league. When given a soapbox, I try to use it.

Pretty close to filling! I am pumped!

Available Ballparks

Ballpark (Location)	Franchise (Years)	Effects					Park Factor
		1B	2B	3B	HR LF	HR RF
Exposition Park (III) Pittsburgh, PA	Pittsburgh Pirates 1891-1909	0	0	0	-2	-2	0.98
Polo Grounds (IV) New York, NY	New York Giants 1891-1911	-1	1	0	-1	-1	0.98
Robison Field St. Louis, MO	St. Louis Cardinals 1893-1920	-1	0	0	-1	2	0.97
South End Grounds III Boston, MA	Boston Braves 1894-1914	2	0	1	-1	-1	1.07
West Side Grounds Chicago, IL	Chicago Cubs 1894-1915	0	0	0	-1	0	0.98
Baker Bowl Philadelphia, PA	Philadelphia Phillies 1895-1938	0	4	1	2	1	1.14
Washington Park III Brooklyn, NY	Brooklyn Dodgers 1898-1912	-1	0	0	-1	1	0.97
Bennett Park Detroit, MI	Detroit Tigers 1901-1911	1	0	-2	3	3	1.02
Columbia Park Philadelphia, PA	Philadelphia Athletics 1901-1908	1	0	0	0	0	1.02
Huntington Ave Baseball Grounds Boston, MA	Boston Red Sox 1901-1911	1	0	0	0	0	1.01
League Park (I) Cleveland, OH	Cleveland Indians 1901-1909	0	0	0	0	0	1.01
South Side Park (III) Chicago, IL	Chicago White Sox 1901-1910	-3	-1	1	0	0	0.9
Palace of the Fans Cincinnati, OH	Cincinnati Reds 1902-1911	2	4	3	-3	-3	1.08
Sportsman's Park (II) St. Louis, MO	St. Louis Browns 1902-1908	-2	0	1	0	0	0.93
American League Park (II) Washington D.C.	Washington Senators 1903-1910	-2	0	1	0	0	0.94
Hilltop Park New York, NY	New York Yankees 1903-1912	3	3	3	0	-3	1.14
Candlestick Park San Francisco, CA	San Francisco Giants 1960-1995	-1	0	-1	0	0	0.95

Will franchises move when the team moves in RL? Or will we be given the option to relocate, but not forced?

I don’t think we will force anyone to change stadiums but the new ones will be available as they open.

This league is set up and ready to go! The available players, draft board, private forum, and draft order is set. All you need to do it sign up (and maybe bring a friend!).

Once you sign up, I can give you access to the private forum and your draft slot!

I'll give this a try!