Alias Pair Uncovered Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By EasyE7273 on 11/26/2009Yeah, like you can believe everything you read and see online
Isn't that how WWI got started?
11/26/2009 12:06 PM
Assuming arguendo that he wasnt born in the US -- who cares? The majority of the country wanted this guy to be our president and so he is. If you dont like it,vote hm out of office in 3 years.
11/26/2009 12:19 PM
Heck it happens in sports all the time, officials make bad calls and a team loses a game on some stupid technicality. You take the loss and move on to the next game, you don't sit and whine about it. Ask the Irish soccer team.

Of course, we still have the 1972 US Olympic basketball team that refuses to pick up their silver medals -- without recognizing that i they had played better the rest of the game they wouldnt have put themselves in that situation.
11/26/2009 12:24 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By csherwood on 11/26/2009Assuming arguendo that he wasnt born in the US -- who cares? The majority of the country wanted this guy to be our president and so he is. If you dont like it,vote hm out of office in 3 years
Wrong. About 70 million voted for Obama, with 60 million voting for McCain... out of a total population of around 300 million, meaning Obama got far less than a majority of the country. Learn your terms if you expect to discuss this stuff.

The word you're looking for is "plurality". You're welcome.
11/26/2009 12:30 PM
People that dont vote dont count. PLus can you prove to me that the majority of those other 170 million did not want him as president?
11/26/2009 1:58 PM
I dont know about during election time, but I can say pretty confidently now that the majority of the 170M dont want him now.
11/26/2009 2:26 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By csherwood on 11/26/2009
Assuming arguendo that he wasnt born in the US -- who cares? The majority of the country wanted this guy to be our president and so he is. If you dont like it,vote hm out of office in 3 years.
without getting into an argument of why the rules are important - this is a legitimate question, as are the questions of whether he has always been a US citizen, and even if he is one now. But if any of these "birther" etc issues were ever proven valid all it would do is replace Obama with Biden. Which would not effect policy and therefore is not ultimately important.

The bigger issue is whether you believe the ruling party's policies are in the best interest of the country. If not, then the time to do something about it is not 3 years away. It is 11 months away. Why do you think the Dems are trying to push through everything they can this congressional session? By the 2010 session every congressperson is re-running for office and running scared (or should be).

If you like what Reid and Pelosi are pushing then work for and re-elect Democrats.

Think they are somewhere to the of Stalin then vote against any Democrat running. A "blue dog" Democrat will still vote to keep Pelosi Speaker and Reid Pro tem.

If there is an "independent" who really has a chance in your disctrict and you can't stand either party take a chance. But keep in mind NY23, if you can't stand the present ruling party make sure the ruling rascals get voted OUT.

If you don't know who George Soros is, or why he funded MoveOn.Org then do some reading. Ignorance is never a valid reason for stupidity. If you are going to take sides KNOW what the sides stand for and who is providing the $$$. You may end up with a closepin on your nose when you vote but at least you will know what the stench is from.
11/26/2009 2:44 PM
HEAR!!! HEAR!!! Griv!!! Let's hope there will be changes in 11 months!
11/28/2009 12:57 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By EasyE7273 on 11/26/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By gjello10 on 11/25/2009

You can't seriously believe that stuff, E, can you?

I believe it 100%. Obama has not proven he was born in the United States. The birthers have it right.
LOL, I've got some great oceanfront property I can sell you for a very reasonable price. It is in Nevada.







No one has proven it is not at the ocean.
11/28/2009 11:00 PM
Glad I'm not scared of everybody and everything.
11/29/2009 12:15 AM
Or constantly angry at everybody and everything.

11/29/2009 4:26 AM
you must be moderates - or ostriches - or luke skywalker.

LukeSkywaler: "I'mnotscared." Yoda: "You Will Be!"

The Democtats () are angry and scared because they think there are thousands of "rights" they are being denied. Further, in their minds, they lost the right to steal the 2000 election in Florida and have been angry ever since. The Democrats are trying to co-opt the Independents ("Moderates") into supporting the 's agenda - in 2008 they succeeded.

The Rebulicans (Right) are angry and scared because they think the may be successful in institutionalizing these "rights" via court litigation and control of congress. Further that the is institutionalizing the stealing of elections via ACORN and other groups. (Both sides have attempted and succeeded in stealing elections - but the Right feels it has never been so open or so financed by government money). The Right would like to co-opt the Independents ("Moderates") into opposing the Democrats/ and thereby into supporting the Rights minority positions - in 2008 they failed

The center ("Moderates") should be angry and scared but most are too ignorant to recognize that both the and the Right have their personal agendas ahead of national interest and are playing them for the chumps the moderates behave like. The moderates have been too stupid to tell both parties to shove it where the sun don't shine. As stated previously Ignorance is not an excuse for Stupidity. Learn what is going on. If you believe the - OK (but wrong), work fairly to win. If you believe the Right fine, (but wrong) do the same. If you conclude that both Parties are damaging the nation become a "radical moderate" and look for viable non-extreme independent candidates. If not available in the next election, vote to throw the present rascal in congress out (esp if a member of the controlling party) and/or for the most moderate candidate (ie reject being co-opt). Until both extremes are marginalized the quality of government is only going to get worse.

It is past the time of yelling -
"I'm as mad as hell,
and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

it is time to act - it is time for the great moderate center to take this country back - to do what is correct
11/29/2009 9:52 AM
Blah blah blah. What does this have to do with an pair of aliases being uncovered? Go find a podium somewhere.
11/29/2009 10:13 AM
Ok. First a little about myself. Now I'm sure you've all noticed from my first post, as wrmiller13 has so eloquently pointed out, that I am sounding a little arrogant about this whole matter. I apologize in advance as ignorance sadly sometimes brings the worst out in me.
Try not to take what I say too lightly. I know that this is only a sports simulation website and the propensity to do so is a fact of life, but it will be worth your while to take some time out and mull over a few of the things I am about to say to you.
First, I am not a nutjob off the street when it comes to these matters. I hold a Masters degree in Archaeology with a minor in geology and a separate Baccalaureatte degree in history. I spent three years as the Head Curator at the Institute of Sedimentary and Petroleum Geology in Calgary, Alberta, Canada with my primary duties being the study and preservation of the cumulative colection of Nobel nominee Sir Herman Geldsetzer. If you doubt any of this, go ahead and start googling.
I'm not sure how much archaeological education or experience any of you have, but to really dig down to the center of this matter, one has to return to the "scene of the crime" so to speak. Any of you Americans who have spent a tour of duty in Iraq may have heard some vague references to this, but that area of the world in Archaeological terms is referred to as "The Cradle of Civilization"
The reason for this term is that the first known civilization, called the Sumerian civilization (pronounced "Shew-mair-ee-an" not "Soo-mair-ee-an", please get it right) sprang up in that area approximately 6000 years ago. This should not be confused with the Theological assertion by Archbishop James Ussher that the earth was created by the Lord during one autumn week in 4004 BCE.
You have probably read and noticed by this point that I have referred to God as "The Lord", as though he really exists and that I really believe in him. Keep that in mind and read on. Many of you already have read or heard much about the Ancient Greeks or the Ancient Egyptians, but have heard or read very little about the Ancient Sumerians. There is a reason for this. Most governments, especially in the western world, want you to know as little as possible about the Ancient Sumerian civilization. It's not that the information isn't available. The reason is that everything we have learned about the Sumerians completely destroys everything we thought we knew about ourselves and our own human origins. In other words, they do not fit the accepted "Christian" model of human history.
The wonderful thing about the Sumerians is that they were meticulous record keepers. This is not something some bright caveman woke up one morning and decided to start doing. It was a learned art, that was taught by someone, or something, else. The writing they used to record all that they did and knew was called Cuneiform. It involved a simple method of whitling down any long thin object, a twig, or even a rock for those who were more talented, so that the end made an elongated triangular form that one could press into soft, wet clay. When these triangular symbols were combined together in differing numbers and orientations, an alphabet was created. The first "alphabet". By recording things in this manner, they created a system of maintaining records that would last for hundreds, even thousands of years. What they did then was create thousands of objects called "cylinder seals", that were mostly made of hardened clay. These cylinder seals have been very well preserved in the hot dry desert sands of the middle east, and have been found in abundance at archaeological sites such as Ur and Babylon. The cylinder seal is exactly as it's name suggests, a cylinder with a negative impression of the cuneiform message written around it. The information could then be transferred from the seal to wet clay by pressing the cylinder down on the clay and then rolling it across the clay. This would create a positive impression in the clay of the message. The amazing thing about this is that the original message on the cylinder had to be written backwards for the system to work, much like you would have to write a message backwards on a piece of paper in order to read it properly in a mirror.
Literally thousands of these cylinder seals have been found in the Iraqi desert, with many more lying in wait. The seals that have been found, have been buried for decades in the cellars of major museums in countries like England, USA, and Germany. Only recently have they been taken out and re-examined. Because of the hostile government of Saddam Hussein that resided in Iraq for about 30 years, followed by the war and ongoing civil dispute, access to the archaeological riches in Iraq has been nearly impossible since the mid 1960's.
The most commonly written information contained within the cylinder seals is a large book of many seperate works called the Enuma Elish. In Sumerian form, the Enuma Elish takes it's most ancient, and subsequently, it's purest form. Simply stated, the Enuma Elish is the precursor to Genesis. For those of you who hold radicaly religious beliefs, I'm sorry to say but the Bible was not written by the hand of God. It was copied down from an older version by the Jewish priests held captive in Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar from 597-537 BCE. Those priests had full access to the same cylinder seals I have previously mentioned, stored in abundance in the Babylonian record halls. Nebuchadnezzar had full intentions, as most dictators do, of completely assimilating it's conquered peoples into Babylonian society.
Contained within the Enuma Elish is every story contained within the old testament that predates the Jewish captivity. One that may ring a bell with everyone reading this is the Epic of Gilgamesh. Virtually a carbon copy of the tale of Noah and the Flood, with numerous other adventures thrown in as well.
But even more fascinating, and educating, is the story of the Anunnaki, "The Lofty Ones". We in the archaeological community, unfortunately, tend to assign the misnomer "Gods" to these beings. The fact is, the Sumerians never viewed the Anunnaki as gods, but more as superior beings and teachers. One thing they were certain of was that the Anunnaki were the creators of the human race. Now at first glance we can all say "what did a primitive civilization who knew nothing of what we call science and our advanced theology know about where the human race came from?" Well think about it. Anyone who knows anything about history knows that the further we get away from events as they happen, the more twisted and distorted records of those events become. The records by the Sumerians, are the closest records we have of human origins to the actual events. This is fact. It is indisputable. Do I expect you to believe me based on this statement alone? Of course not. Read on.
The two primary characters of the Anunnaki pantheon of "gods" were two brothers named En-lil and En-ki. En-lil was the younger brother who was also a very strict authoritarian. After the Anunnaki arrived on earth, En-lil was assigned the duties of chief administrator over the E-din, a very lush tropical paradise on the shores of the Persian Gulf which served as the site of the initial Anunnaki settlement on Earth. En-ki was a scientist who was charged with the duties of overseeing mining operations to retrieve highly sought after, and desperately needed gold.
Well this is going to have to be concluded later tonight because my shift is ending and I'm about to go home and get some sleep. In the meantime, feel free to let me know how interested you all are to hear the end of this story, and if you're not, too bad because you're going to hear it anyway.
11/29/2009 10:28 AM
Fun stuff gin, it's pretty obvious that modern religions borrow alot from their precursors and this fact is a big blow to the modern religions credibility.

I also got a good chuckle when you wrote "advanced theology"

would like to hear more about the sumerians...
11/29/2009 12:26 PM
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