I know people will think I am stupid but Topic

schroedess26
Posts: 54 (0)
All Star
29 1 1
Prospect
Ya but you have to do about 7-10 seasons in lower levels to get to BCS and most of those jobs if not all are filled up in my worlds.

The point though is that HD shouldn't be barren at any level. Thats all I was bringing up. Do you have other IDs davey? Cause these days D2/D3 is completely different than when you came up through it, its pretty dead down there.

I just thought it would be nice to have worlds that are busier and have packed conferences. You seem to be about the only one that doesn't see it as a problem or something that should be changed. Its nice to move up but there should be a fun road along the way as well.
1/25/2010 2:21 AM
cbriese
Posts: 919 (0)
Hall of Famer
765 102 201
Prospect
Every world has DII amd DIII conferences that are consistently populated, while others are sparse. There is always the option of joining one of those more competitive conferences. I know of a lot of DII and DIII teams that play less then five Sim AI opponents each season.
1/25/2010 3:36 AM
mrpolo09
Posts: 249 (0)
Hall of Famer
10 5 173 2 34
Prospect
This would only cause outrage. And why do we need WIS to do this for us? We can, as users, flock to one world if we really want to. And its already being done. If you want to be in a great DIII world go to Wooden. If you want a great DII world go to Rupp. Simple.

as far as DI, all the worlds are decent, other than maybe Phelan and Knight.
1/25/2010 5:19 AM
pottle
Posts: 0 (0)
Hall of Famer
12 167 7
Prospect
People don't like to lose.

You could have only one fully populated world, but with only 64 of 324 teams making the tournament each year, people would get frustrated and start quitting very quickly. It the name of realism/marketing, they tried having every team, but I don't think it makes much sense from a gameplay point of view. Div II and Div III would be much better served if they only had about 192-240 teams. About 50% of the teams would make some sort of post-season and fewer automatic bids would go out to bad teams. You'd probably have about as many coaches as you do now, but more tightly packed, leading to more excitement.
1/25/2010 6:11 AM
vandydave
Posts: 2124 (0)
Hall of Famer
28 1 1 843 273
Prospect
Quote: Originally Posted By Lizak on 1/25/2010
I'm not advocating moving D1. That has too many issues that I can't see being overcome.

I looked at playing in D3 or D2 for an additional challenge and there were so few coaches in Smith (and I assume other worlds) that it didn't make sense. That's why it seems to be worth looking into consolidation of the worlds at the lower levels. Maybe you are lucky and have a lot of human coaches but most of the conferences I looked at were hardly populated at all. Good for running up the win total, not so good for a real challenge.

I'd move the D2, D3 dynasty teams over completely. Who can argue with that?

people who dont think hoops dynasty is only about d1.
1/25/2010 9:02 AM
vandydave
Posts: 2124 (0)
Hall of Famer
28 1 1 843 273
Prospect
Quote: Originally Posted By reinsel on 1/25/2010At least we can all agree we don't need to open any more worlds. We just need to do some marketing to get some more users and fill some worlds up
disagree on new worlds from wis vantage point, if wis opened up a new world it would be as full or fuller as the other worlds at d3 initially for sure, and within 10-15 seasons would likely be equally populated as current worlds. i'd be willing to bet a new world would increase the total number of HD seasons purchased total across all worlds.
1/25/2010 9:04 AM
metsmax
Posts: 1598 (0)
Hall of Famer
5 2 836 2
Pro
alternatively, create a process like the way people died in Logans Run - a random number generator - administered by the colonel - that randomly ends coaches careers....you get an email reporting your death......

ok, maybe not
1/25/2010 9:07 AM
Lizak
Posts: 94 (0)
Hall of Famer
1 89 8
Prospect
So vandydave tell me why a consolidation of the worlds at the lower levels would be a problem for those who enjoy non-D1?

You keep your team. You just now have a lot more humans to compete with in recruiting and tournament play. Coaches get better experience coming through the ranks so when they get to D1, they understand the game better because they've had to beat real humans more often.

I'm really interested in why coaches down there resist this idea. If there are a bunch of conflicts where dynasties couldn't be moved, then I agree it's not doable. But are there a lot of conflicts? Is there some other reason?
1/25/2010 6:05 PM
porkpower
Posts: 39 (0)
Hall of Famer
240 1 11
Prospect
If we are just brainstorming ideas that will never happen, then I would love for them to open a new D3 only world and a D2 only world. No moving up. All about creating a dynasty. Would serve as a great learning ground for newbies and all teams would be filled to the max guarenteed. Offer full reward points and let us go at it! Damn that would be awesome and would create more income for HD overall.
1/25/2010 8:22 PM
tkimble
Posts: 1347 (0)
Hall of Famer
2 335 1 1
Rookie
Quote: Originally posted by porkpower on 1/25/2010If we are just brainstorming ideas that will never happen, then I would love for them to open a new D3 only world and a D2 only world. No moving up. All about creating a dynasty. Would serve as a great learning ground for newbies and all teams would be filled to the max guarenteed. Offer full reward points and let us go at it! Damn that would be awesome and would create more income for HD overall.

Why not a D1 only world so ppl could take control of their favorite teams?
1/25/2010 8:49 PM
porkpower
Posts: 39 (0)
Hall of Famer
240 1 11
Prospect
Almost all focus right now is on people moving up. Makes every world a D1 only world in a way.
1/26/2010 7:04 AM
daveymac
Posts: 1065 (0)
Hall of Famer
126 522 64 83
Rookie
Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/25/2010
Ya but you have to do about 7-10 seasons in lower levels to get to BCS and most of those jobs if not all are filled up in my worlds.

The point though is that HD shouldn't be barren at any level. Thats all I was bringing up. Do you have other IDs davey? Cause these days D2/D3 is completely different than when you came up through it, its pretty dead down there.

I just thought it would be nice to have worlds that are busier and have packed conferences. You seem to be about the only one that doesn't see it as a problem or something that should be changed. Its nice to move up but there should be a fun road along the way as well.





True, this is my only ID, although I do still have my alma mater d3 team in Smith, where there may not be a lot of human coaches, but there are a lot of good ones. The NT is extremely competitive every year.

I guess my point is enjoy all the easy wins now in d3 and d2 because once you get to BCS you aren't going to have that. In a way I think it makes it very realistic. My guess is irl there are plenty of lifer d2 and d3 coaches (simai) that just aren't very good and the guy moving up beat the hell out of them very consistently.

I'm in 7 BCS conferences and I couldn't even tell you which one is the hardest. I feel like every night I'm playing OR, Testudo, Grecianfox, Kann, etc, almost never, ever have an off night. Even if you schedule down in NC you still ended up scheduling humans and they are tough and aggressive and want your job so there really aren't any easy gigs. I frequently make the NT without 20 wins, and probably have a BCS winning pct of about .600 and as opposed to .760 otherwise (just a guess).

So enjoy the tomato cans cause when you are done with them you are going to get a steady diet of Ali, Frazier, Tyson and Louis. :)
1/26/2010 7:39 AM
oldresorter
Posts: 646 (0)
Hall of Famer
1110 1
Prospect
I don't know what the breakeven pt is for hd management, but I don't see why any user would worry about worlds being populated much more than they are now - if u want to play top notch humans, u can, if you want to play sims u can - I don't get what the issue is - unless HD is losing money?

i would encourage new users to schedule all sims and learn to beat them, this becomes a baseline strategy around which you build strategy to compete vs humans. As a youth, I had an uncle who was somewhat a card playing guru - I used to play cards with him as a very young child, he once said you have to learn the rules and conventions b4 you learn how and when to violate them. good advice for hd
1/26/2010 7:59 AM
◂ Prev 123
I know people will think I am stupid but Topic
△Top△Bottom

Search Criteria

Terms of Use Customer Support Privacy Statement

© 1999-2026 WhatIfSports.com, Inc. All rights reserved. WhatIfSports is a trademark of WhatIfSports.com, Inc. SimLeague, SimMatchup and iSimNow are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts, Inc. Used under license. The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners.