Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 1/27/2010
So, you're questioning ADMIN's motives based on your "guess"???!?!?! Good to know.

No prob. That fits right in to the HBD forums.

would you guess it would be lower toddcommish?

So no one really responded to my theory that they tried to fix a problem they thought existed, they then thought they went to far, and are updating now because the update was scheduled. Will they now go too far back, and have to leave it that way for an extended period because no major updates will occur in HBD for a while with all the other updates on tap?

Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 1/27/2010So no one really responded to my ..

Exactly. Dead silence.

Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 1/27/2010

So, you're questioning ADMIN's motives based on your "guess"???!?!?! Good to know.

i wasn't questioning admin's motives, i was questioning how the newest update will play out given the information they have provided us...i also suspect that no world such as the one in my hypothetical exists or ever will...if i were to guess at admin's motives, i would say that they know that ~2.4 HR/G is a unrealistic #, but that they are doing it to placate those who don't like the end of the steroid era update and are trying to find a compromise

Quote: Originally posted by bighead34 on 1/27/2010i should also mention in my hypothetical i'm assuming this world would use all MLB ballparks plus two more neutral parks

Olympic Stadium in MTL is a MLB ballpark

Quote: Originally Posted By shobob on 1/27/2010Olympic Stadium in MTL is a MLB ballpar

Is? Or was?

And although a ML team briefly played its home games there, was it ever really a major league ball park?

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It's still there

Will it be an AL or NL park this year? I haven't heard Selig address that lately.

Quote: Originally posted by bighead34 on 1/27/2010perhaps some of those ERA #s are inflated by the excessive amount of HRs...also Carlos Silva, Livan Hernandez, Adam Eaton

Possible but that's the point, it's a combination of things. So why screw the power hitters only? I don't have a side but curious why?

Quote: Originally Posted By mitchrapp on 1/27/2010

Quote: Originally posted by bighead34 on 1/27/2010 perhaps some of those ERA #s are inflated by the excessive amount of HRs...also Carlos Silva, Livan Hernandez, Adam Eaton

Possible but that's the point, it's a combination of things. So why screw the power hitters only? I don't have a side but curious why

Screw the power hitters only? mitch you must be on drugs or something. The adjustment was necessary because there were far too many home runs being hit. Now they are scaling it back because guys like you are ******** and complaining. The adjustment was fine and put the home run rate a more realistic (still not on par with MLB rates) rate and put more emphasis on the skills that matter in baseball. Now we are going to go back to the way it was and there will be far too many home runs once again.

The "far too many home runs being hit" may not have been a result of the engine at all. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Or it could be. So don't you let facts get in the way of your story either.

Factors that lead to excessive HRs -

1. Managers who emphasize POWER over fielding - Chicks dig the long ball. So do mouth-breathing, chest-pounding neanderthals. "Hey, who cares if the guy has 40 errors... HE CAN HIT 50 HOMERS!"

2. Tankers - In HBD, there is no penalty for going 0-162. You'll still get $185M next year, except now you'll get the #1 draft pick and first waiver wire position. If you deliberately draft a player that won't sign, you'll get the top TWO picks after you tank another year. So, why not trot out some horrible LowA level pitching?

3. Managers who don't check their teams every day - Not as bad as tankers (who do it every day), but capable of periodically sending out a horde of 0(0) pitchers for a nice little 28-2 game where they give up 12 homers.

4. Modified "fatigue" strategy - Not as extreme as the SLB equivalent, but guys will send out crappy pitching against interleague rivals in order to give their "real" pitchers an extra three-days of rest, which is important because HBD has pitchers with 15/80 dur/sta ratings (and NO starting pitcher in MLB pitches only every 6th day).

5. Park Effects - Check out the HR totals for Colorado/Santa Fe players and the road teams that play there. Subtract them OUT of the computations. You'll probably see much more realistic home run figures.

6. It might be the engine, after all... - But without isolating these other variables, ADMIN is just flinging poo at the wall, trying to see what will stick.