You could tone down the $ on distance a little bit but in the end it helps to keep recruiting more regionally. I like the fact that when you are in the "TV market" of a recruit he costs less making him more willing to come to your school.

One thing I do not like is that people that coach in Maryland think 100 or 50 miles is good everywhere.

I think 300 Miles works cause there is usually at least some talent then even when your out in Arizona/Nebraska/Wyoming but if you drop that down to 100 miles then teams out East will pay a lot less for recruits compared to the West and have more money to spend nationally. The west would be paying 2x the amount of $ to recruit players that are right now.

My National Recruiting Idea
The biggest improvement that could be done is take a note from EA Sports partly and every player that has a Star rating or even just 5/4/3 stars would have a list of 5 schools that could recruit them at a cheaper cost than normal but still not at the local price.

So you would get the top 5 talent with a Solid School in the area and 4 national powerhouses on his list like someone else said. The local school would get even more of a price break and the national schools would also get a price break closer to being local.

I think this is the most you could do to change recruiting, getting ride of the regionally recruiting service would really hurt HD.

I think it is fair the way it is, although some teams have more money to recruit with it is based on success and the teams with the most money, lose the most players to EE. And is real life as it causes coaches to aspire to move to big 6 conf.'s

Right now, distance is the only thing my team can rely on to gain an advantage in recruiting. I totally understand why a team with B+ prestige or better would like this. For others, I can't really come up with a recruiting strategy that would make sense beyond just waiting until signings start.

The way things are now, I can get a decent feel for who my competition is for certain recruits. I can gauge battles fought among regional teams with better prestige to try to figure out who might have money to knock me off my targeted recruits. I don't have complete control with C prestige, but I at least have a feel for the level of risk I face in going after certain recruits.

If distance didn't matter and any team with a better prestige could knock me off, I don't see how I can take a risk on spending much money at all until signings start. aporter, what would your strategy be under your proposed system if you had C prestige or worse?

In Knight the top 25 players by position only 15 out of 125 were signed by a non-Big 6 school. 5 of those teams had 6 or more openings and will not fill their roster this season. One team signed 2 players so there were actually only 14 teams. I don't see much room for the rich to get richer especially when those top 25 players by position will cost more to recruit than they do today.

You should want more battles by big 6 schools for players not less how it is know. The only way you are going to increase battles is if UCLA can go to New York to recruit a kid, because we all know that inter-conference battles for guys in local area are rare. Now you have UCLA and Syracuse battling for a kid that will also cost them more in price along to recruit. The more they battle the less likely hood they get away with having 3 other top 10 players considering them without any competition. The less likely hood they have that #35PG considering them only as a backup. The less likely hood they can come in at the 5:00pm or 8:00 pm cycle before signings to "poach" a player as some would say.

Quote: Originally Posted By geoffrhodes on 4/01/2010
Right now, distance is the only thing my team can rely on to gain an advantage in recruiting. I totally understand why a team with B+ prestige or better would like this. For others, I can't really come up with a recruiting strategy that would make sense beyond just waiting until signings start.

The way things are now, I can get a decent feel for who my competition is for certain recruits. I can gauge battles fought among regional teams with better prestige to try to figure out who might have money to knock me off my targeted recruits. I don't have complete control with C prestige, but I at least have a feel for the level of risk I face in going after certain recruits.

If distance didn't matter and any team with a better prestige could knock me off, I don't see how I can take a risk on spending much money at all until signings start. aporter, what would your strategy be under your proposed system if you had C prestige or worse?

My strategy would be to not overextend myself early making me a target. Depending on the number of opening scholarships I would find the 1 or 2 guys that are at my recruiting level that I feel I can get and hold off schools less than a full letter grade higher than me. Now I start looking for other players that fit my system, doesn't have to be a top 20 guy. At the same time I pay attention to the teams that overextend themselves and have 9 guys considering them with 4 openings. Once you get close to signings or cycle right after pay attention to what players the Big 6 have considering them and the number of openings they have. Duke may have 3 guys considering them with only two openings because they are in a battle for their two targets. Remember it's now costing them more to battle for those 2 top guys.

While your current strategy is wise, how is that not more like having a draft which is basically what recruiting has become?

read quickly, seems as solid of an idea as any, might have a kink or two to work out, but would solve some stuff, possibly create a new problem or two, nice idea for sure

You all are trying to kill my Hawaii teams. The only advantage I have is distance costs being in my favor when the recruit generator places a big-time recruit on the Islands. This would negate my only chance of competing for a 4-5 star player against the A-level prestige teams in a world.

my take on national recruiting is that the primary benefit would be for top players to attract multiple top schools. this competition among top schools would "open things up" a bit for everyone else.

however, as recruit generation is implemented today, i don't see that happening with any scheme. i think there need to be a crop of elite players. in bball today, there are often freshman among the top handful of players in the country. in HD, its never even close. so i just don't see there being any player good enough to justify a bunch of guys going after him.

also, i think a combination of national and regional recruiting would be the ideal situation. the star system originally proposed kind of rubs me the wrong way, partially because it is such a poor measure of talent. but, i don't think it should cost more to recruit a 1 star than a 3 star on its own, that should only arise out of competition IMO. i would prefer a solution where the say top 25 players nationally are all recruited at a 250 mile distance, so everyone can go at it for those players, but lower prestige schools who have no shot at those players still have their backyard advantage.

anyway, with the "close to home" and "far from home" feature in the game today, we might already have most of what we are looking for. according to lostmyth's FAQ, he puts far from home at a whopping 50-75% advantage. in the single battle i've analyzed with that as a component, it seemed to make a very significant difference. at least, the number i have trusted for so long didn't even get me close to the actual outcome. it made 0 sense unless either 1) everything i know is wrong or 2) far from home is quite significant. at 50% that would be enough to open a recruit up to national recruiting, i think. maybe not the guys over 1400 or whatever that upper cutoff is that puts campus visits up to 2K, but I think it negates the distance advantage for everyone within 1400 or whatever.

Quote: Originally posted by gomiami1972 on 4/02/2010You all are trying to kill my Hawaii teams.  The only advantage I have is distance costs being in my favor when the recruit generator places a big-time recruit on the Islands.  This would negate my only chance of competing for a 4-5 star player against the A-level prestige teams in a world.

You get 1 4-5 star guy every few seasons and you have a distance advantage. Or, with the proposed system, you could compete ANY year for every 4-5 star guy with an advantage. I'd take the proposed system.

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Excellent well thought out post.

Does anyone remember how D2/D3 were before FSS and potential? It was totally national recruiting where the A+ teams just took the best players and none of the lower level teams could do anything about it.

More like RL, but not more fun.

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