Posted by udm_mike on 5/27/2013 7:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by patsrule755 on 5/27/2013 6:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tkimble on 5/27/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
To all the guys spamming to try to fill a conference (jets, patsrule, anyone else), I think filling a conference is a great goal, but you're going about it the wrong way. People can tell when they get mass sitemails and it doesn't make people want to join your conference, it gets people annoyed with you and they don't want to ever join your conference. If you want to get a coach to try to join your conference, try finding someone in that world, this way you're not asking someone to spend money to pick up an extra team (not always a hindrance, but it is a good strategy). Make a recruiting pitch to them. Not "You should join this conference because I'm joining and we're trying to get a full conference!". That doesn't make anyone want to join your conference. When you make the pitch, do a little research on the coach, give him a personal message, show him that you want him there, not because he's a warm body, but because of his coaching ability. "Hey tkimble, I've seen the impressive program you built at Roanoke. I've also seen you're an active forum contributor and knowledgeable HD coach. We (coaches w, x, y, and z) are trying to put together an active and competitive conference of coaches in Phelan. We think your addition to this conference would be a huge addition for us and we would love to have you." Also, coaches do not want to move from semi-filled conferences to other semi-filled conferences. You either should have 8+ coaches in your conference or you should target coaches who are alone in their conference. Even if a coach says no, he at least has a good impression of you as a coach and you're more likely to be able to recruit him at a later time when he's more open to picking up a new team/ switching conferences. You'll go a long way when you treat others with respect.

When I sent mine I didn't send it to a Ton of people. I sent it to a select group of people that I knew we're good and active coaches most of the coaches said no but in a respectable way and a few inquired about the conference. I don't really see how a sitemail would ruin someones day but hey that's just me.

We need more coaches like you and less like jjohn.  Don't let his douchiness deter you from trying to improve your conference.

Oh yes udm, I'm a real detriment to the HD community  because I asked if anyone else besides me was receiving multiple site mails.  One would think that if you want to fill conferences then get on the forums,  advertise, and market to everyone instead of spamming. I'm not against people building up conferences but build them up in the forums instead of annoying site mails.

Posted by colonels19 on 5/27/2013 11:46:00 PM (view original):
Your actions are the reason jjohn posted.  Most people wouldn't do this, but if you've sitemailed him multiple times over about the same thing, I can see the kind of headache it could get to be...i.e. davep sitemailing me about simleague baseball that I haven't played in like 5 years.  This goes on as long as you want it to my friend.

Friend? Ha. Also I sitemailed him 3 times and if he told me to stop I would but guess what? He didn't

So the lack of a response says, "press on"?!

I dont mind if I get a site mail but if I don't respond (I normally do) I wouldn't want to get 2 more requests.

Posted by gvsujulius on 5/28/2013 4:35:00 PM (view original):
I dont mind if I get a site mail but if I don't respond (I normally do) I wouldn't want to get 2 more requests.

Those two more requests were not right after GV. They were for a different conf about a month or two later

Eh I feel nice when someone recruits me, although I always turn it down unless it is personalized. Jets, while your intent was good, I think perhaps approach it differently next time. Although I am glad you're not butthurt about it, that alone will help people think better of you and listen to your pitch.

Posted by jjohn45 on 5/28/2013 8:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by udm_mike on 5/27/2013 7:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by patsrule755 on 5/27/2013 6:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tkimble on 5/27/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
To all the guys spamming to try to fill a conference (jets, patsrule, anyone else), I think filling a conference is a great goal, but you're going about it the wrong way. People can tell when they get mass sitemails and it doesn't make people want to join your conference, it gets people annoyed with you and they don't want to ever join your conference. If you want to get a coach to try to join your conference, try finding someone in that world, this way you're not asking someone to spend money to pick up an extra team (not always a hindrance, but it is a good strategy). Make a recruiting pitch to them. Not "You should join this conference because I'm joining and we're trying to get a full conference!". That doesn't make anyone want to join your conference. When you make the pitch, do a little research on the coach, give him a personal message, show him that you want him there, not because he's a warm body, but because of his coaching ability. "Hey tkimble, I've seen the impressive program you built at Roanoke. I've also seen you're an active forum contributor and knowledgeable HD coach. We (coaches w, x, y, and z) are trying to put together an active and competitive conference of coaches in Phelan. We think your addition to this conference would be a huge addition for us and we would love to have you." Also, coaches do not want to move from semi-filled conferences to other semi-filled conferences. You either should have 8+ coaches in your conference or you should target coaches who are alone in their conference. Even if a coach says no, he at least has a good impression of you as a coach and you're more likely to be able to recruit him at a later time when he's more open to picking up a new team/ switching conferences. You'll go a long way when you treat others with respect.

When I sent mine I didn't send it to a Ton of people. I sent it to a select group of people that I knew we're good and active coaches most of the coaches said no but in a respectable way and a few inquired about the conference. I don't really see how a sitemail would ruin someones day but hey that's just me.

We need more coaches like you and less like jjohn.  Don't let his douchiness deter you from trying to improve your conference.

Oh yes udm, I'm a real detriment to the HD community  because I asked if anyone else besides me was receiving multiple site mails.  One would think that if you want to fill conferences then get on the forums,  advertise, and market to everyone instead of spamming. I'm not against people building up conferences but build them up in the forums instead of annoying site mails.

I'm glad you've started to see reason.  And it only took 3 pages of a forum whining to do it!  Not too shabby.

I've actually joined conferences to join coaches who site mail before.  Personalized tends to be more likely to get specific coaches than some random "Please join our conference!" posting.

Is that green mail notification THAT detrimental to your happiness?

Posted by udm_mike on 5/28/2013 7:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jjohn45 on 5/28/2013 8:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by udm_mike on 5/27/2013 7:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by patsrule755 on 5/27/2013 6:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tkimble on 5/27/2013 4:24:00 PM (view original):
To all the guys spamming to try to fill a conference (jets, patsrule, anyone else), I think filling a conference is a great goal, but you're going about it the wrong way. People can tell when they get mass sitemails and it doesn't make people want to join your conference, it gets people annoyed with you and they don't want to ever join your conference. If you want to get a coach to try to join your conference, try finding someone in that world, this way you're not asking someone to spend money to pick up an extra team (not always a hindrance, but it is a good strategy). Make a recruiting pitch to them. Not "You should join this conference because I'm joining and we're trying to get a full conference!". That doesn't make anyone want to join your conference. When you make the pitch, do a little research on the coach, give him a personal message, show him that you want him there, not because he's a warm body, but because of his coaching ability. "Hey tkimble, I've seen the impressive program you built at Roanoke. I've also seen you're an active forum contributor and knowledgeable HD coach. We (coaches w, x, y, and z) are trying to put together an active and competitive conference of coaches in Phelan. We think your addition to this conference would be a huge addition for us and we would love to have you." Also, coaches do not want to move from semi-filled conferences to other semi-filled conferences. You either should have 8+ coaches in your conference or you should target coaches who are alone in their conference. Even if a coach says no, he at least has a good impression of you as a coach and you're more likely to be able to recruit him at a later time when he's more open to picking up a new team/ switching conferences. You'll go a long way when you treat others with respect.

When I sent mine I didn't send it to a Ton of people. I sent it to a select group of people that I knew we're good and active coaches most of the coaches said no but in a respectable way and a few inquired about the conference. I don't really see how a sitemail would ruin someones day but hey that's just me.

We need more coaches like you and less like jjohn.  Don't let his douchiness deter you from trying to improve your conference.

Oh yes udm, I'm a real detriment to the HD community  because I asked if anyone else besides me was receiving multiple site mails.  One would think that if you want to fill conferences then get on the forums,  advertise, and market to everyone instead of spamming. I'm not against people building up conferences but build them up in the forums instead of annoying site mails.

I'm glad you've started to see reason.  And it only took 3 pages of a forum whining to do it!  Not too shabby.

I've actually joined conferences to join coaches who site mail before.  Personalized tends to be more likely to get specific coaches than some random "Please join our conference!" posting.

Is that green mail notification THAT detrimental to your happiness?

What does the u stand for ?Obviously the d is for dumb and the m is for moron

clever john, really clever