I've got 4 mil in HS and right now I'm seeing projections for HS players which make no sense at all.  At both ends of the scale, super high and super low.

This one kills me:  an 18 year old DH with fielding projections of 0 Range, 62 Glove, 100 Arm, 100 Accuracy and 100 PC.  I'd love to see that player actually exist.

I'm seeing more mislabeled amateur prospects, i.e., a prospect listed as a catcher with defensive ratings of 92, 81, 70, 71, 43.

Posted by psychoch on 8/10/2015 2:03:00 PM (view original):
I'm seeing more mislabeled amateur prospects, i.e., a prospect listed as a catcher with defensive ratings of 92, 81, 70, 71, 43.

That was actually not uncommon in the early days of HBD.

Whatever code they have in place to label the target position for a prospect seems to trigger on the PC rating for catchers.  When it's above a certain threshold, as long as the other four defensive ratings are near or above (in this case, FAR above) the minimums for a C, then the prospect will be labeled as a catcher rather than his more appropriate position.

This guy used to be recommended as a catcher as a secondary position, I assume because of his 41 PC rating.  I've occasionally, though very rarely, seen it with other players as well.

4M in scouting means some HS coach who knows the secretary to your assistant groundskeeper was driving by a game and saw a runner thrown out stealing on a called strike. He turned into the parking lot and without having to get out of his car found a parent who thought she knew the catcher's name. Maybe he even saw another called strike as he was heading back onto the highway. He called the secretary, who took down the info and promised to have a $30 check sent to him for his efforts.

Separately, wouldn't that be a reasonable scouting line for Yadier Molina?

Posted by joshkvt on 8/10/2015 2:54:00 PM (view original):
4M in scouting means some HS coach who knows the secretary to your assistant groundskeeper was driving by a game and saw a runner thrown out stealing on a called strike. He turned into the parking lot and without having to get out of his car found a parent who thought she knew the catcher's name. Maybe he even saw another called strike as he was heading back onto the highway. He called the secretary, who took down the info and promised to have a $30 check sent to him for his efforts.

Separately, wouldn't that be a reasonable scouting line for Yadier Molina?

I'm seeing similar mislabeling whether I have high or low amateur scouting.

I think that would be more of a Craig Biggio scouting line. 

My international scouts, making $4M, got drunk off their ***** on mezcal in in Northern Mexico and found a pitcher with projected zero DUR, 100 ST; currents (he signed with someone else) turned out to be 21 and 57.  The next day they continued their bender, made a 9-hour drive down to the Gulf of California coast that must have been something out of Hunter S. Thompson, and reported back on a guy (fortunately a pitcher, but still) with zero projected range, glove and AA, which would make comebackers quite the adventure.  He hasn't signed yet, so I don't know how wildly inaccurate those numbers are.

$4M scouting is now not a strategy, but just a passthrough on the way from 0 to 16 or more or vice-versa.  As it should be.

0/62/100/100/100 is the line that presumably josh thought belonged to Yadi.  Biggio would indeed be a "mislabeled prospect;" he'd project to something like 75 for all 5 green ratings.

Correct

Posted by Stewart_UK on 8/10/2015 8:17:00 AM (view original):
So Plague that you think 10 College and HS is not enough for drafting after the update? And where do people sit in INT Prospect numbers now? Thanks in advance.

It's just 1 draft so I don't know if 10 will be enough, my first experience with 10 is not a good one. My draft spot was in the mid 20's, but this player I drafted is a pitcher and by my estimate his final control rating will probably be in the 40's, and his overall rating will probably be around 70-72.

It was basically my fault because I never seeded the players, I left the rankings as they were given to me by WIS. I wanted  the first season to see how the WIS rankings panned out  but it slipped my mind to drop obvious players like pitchers with poor control.

I also have a 10 in INTL scouting. With the new lower demands by INTL prospects I chose to test players projected in the 60's by offering them slightly over the demanding price. I figured anyone I get would not be very good, but the 50-80k was worth the learning price.

I had a pitcher who my INTL scouts told me had a projected overall rating of 69. I signed him cheap, after he signed his current rating was in the 30's.

So Mike, For Coll/HS budget, you would suggest 20/0 or 0/20 and get "accurate" numbers out of at least one instead of 10/10?

I don't know that I'm going to go 20 but, yeah, 16-20 and 0 will be far better than 10/10.

To be more clear, I think I'm getting to 16 so I can bump to 20 when my pick# warrants it.   And, if I feel like I'm on a good run, I can drop to 12.

I had 20/8 going into my seasons and the projected numbers for the "8" players were very strange.  Like a starting pitcher with 45 Durability and 88 Stamina.  I moved all of above 18 players down the draft board because of lack of trust.

14 wasn't too bad but 10 and 6 had a lot of the sort of thing you just mentioned.   That's why I think 16 might be a comfort area.