Posted by Benis on 1/10/2016 9:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MonsterTurtl on 1/10/2016 8:56:00 PM (view original):
All popular games that I have seen have 1 major common factor, and that is they all have a large amount of younger people more specifically about 12-24. These people most likely do not have a steady flow of income so for them money is the biggest factor. But what they do have a lot of spare time and they easily get addicted to games. If WIS wants to hit on this important demographic they should lower the price for like the first 5 seasons to about 5.00$.

Doesn't matter how much something costs. If you don't know about it, you can't purchase it.

That is very true, which is why small strategically placed advertisements on fox's own websites would be great for the game.

Posted by kbc167 on 1/10/2016 7:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachSpud on 1/10/2016 6:43:00 PM (view original):
One thing that's apparent to me from this thread is that we (the coaches) can hold diametrically opposed opinions and be certain that we are not only right, but that we speak for others.  We can believe 1-a-day worlds are too slow or just right.  We can believe cost is an issue or it is not.  We can believe new people join to get to D1 as fast as possible, or for a multitude of other reasons.   

Speaking for myself, one-a-day seems ideal.  Two-a-day would not work at all.  And I have very, very little interest in D1, although that might change, of course.  Is the game too tough to learn?  I don't know, I am still learning.  I like the game so far.  Are empty or full conferences more enjoyable?  I have no idea yet.  But I will eventually form my own opinion on that, and all the proselytizing in the world in the forums won't be an influence.

The takeaway: we speak for ourselves, only.

Off topic: do the thumbs-up and thumbs-down thingy's at the top of each post actually work?  I tried to give a post a thuimbs-up, but nothing seemed to happen.  Thanks.

It's hardly proselytizing. It's just called debate. That's what the forum is for. Far be it for me to speak for other coaches but I do think I am when I say that there are a thousand different ways to view the game and the only thing that is safe to say that experienced coaches have broad agreement on is that we all see some room for improvement. Some see very small things, other see major ones.

But I think what harms HD also is apathy. So people voicing I desires for the game is a lot better than no one saying anything. So if some of us have invested years into the game and feel the need to debate our thoughts on what we want to see changed, I don't think that is proselytizing.
I think that is healthy.

The big concern with your last paragraph is what happened to the GD game.  Now, I never played GD but a couple years ago they did an engine overhaul and it was a complete disaster, leading to a mass exodus from the game.  It sounds like the same thing happened when potential was rolled out-we (the users) had to pay for nearly a calendar year to basically beta test the changes (and that was after the month or 2 of actual beta testing).  The game is pretty damn good as is...given WIS's history with updates be careful what you wish for when it comes to changes.

I played WhatifSports Sim Baseball for years until I tried Hoops Dynasty.  I've been much more sucessful at Baseball, but I don't play it anymore.  Hoops Dynasty is addictive.  I like the idea of first 3 seasons for $12.95, or $4.95.  Once you get a little taste of it, it's really difficult to quit.  And the worst times I have ever had in this game was in Div I.

 

I definitely agree about the time being a factor, and think that there should be worlds that are 3 and 4 games a day for people like myself that lack patience.  Keep the 1x day and 2x day worlds but just add in a couple that have more games for those of us that would like a faster paced world to play in.  

Probably because of all the poaching that happens at 5pm on signing days with teams who are only better recruiters because of their bank

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/16/2016 11:35:00 PM (view original):
Probably because of all the poaching that happens at 5pm on signing days with teams who are only better recruiters because of their bank

sorry it takes too long for the new people to even get to the stage you are at

Most D1 coaches don't poach. They show their colours right off the second or third cycle so you don't have to destroy your recruiting bank and time. It's their way of being ethical about that little flaw in the process. Some do poach, just circle their name and once you get an opportunity, give them their own medecine. I have only one name circled... And I have been playing a while. So, I guess you got unlucky or you truly went on players not in your range of prospects.

So after three days of battling what would you call this when two mid majors have most of their budgets on the recruit with no mention of a bigger school in the picture. Coaches of the bigger school do it all the time because they know they have the money to do so. That is why sorry butt onlyis can't understand or admit to it bed they have an advantage

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/17/2016 10:42:00 AM (view original):
So after three days of battling what would you call this when two mid majors have most of their budgets on the recruit with no mention of a bigger school in the picture. Coaches of the bigger school do it all the time because they know they have the money to do so. That is why sorry butt onlyis can't understand or admit to it bed they have an advantage

I'd call it recruiting. 

Posted by dacj501 on 1/17/2016 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/17/2016 10:42:00 AM (view original):
So after three days of battling what would you call this when two mid majors have most of their budgets on the recruit with no mention of a bigger school in the picture. Coaches of the bigger school do it all the time because they know they have the money to do so. That is why sorry butt onlyis can't understand or admit to it bed they have an advantage

I'd call it recruiting. 

Agreed, it is recruiting.

No one likes losing a player at the last minute.  And in Division-1, Big6 teams have a huge advantage.  That is how this game is designed.  But that does not exist in D2/D3.  Understand that this is how the game is designed and if you don't like those advantages, then play at D2/D3.

I am not saying I wouldn't like to modify D1 to make it more like D2/D3 .. but that is not currently how the game is designed/played.

I mean, full conferences in D2/D3 have an advantage now as well, WRT recruiting money.  They also have a harder time going 16-0 in conference and winning the conference tourney to auto qualify for the NT.

I like the D2/D3 gamplay better .. that is why 80% of my reams are D2/D3.

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/17/2016 10:42:00 AM (view original):
So after three days of battling what would you call this when two mid majors have most of their budgets on the recruit with no mention of a bigger school in the picture. Coaches of the bigger school do it all the time because they know they have the money to do so. That is why sorry butt onlyis can't understand or admit to it bed they have an advantage

You just can't admit that you wasted your money and are upset that a smarter coach came in and took the player from you.

You shouldn't have battled for 3 days for nothing, all you are doing is battling for the lead on the fss which means crap.  You should know what schools are around you and what budgets other schools have as well as what targets they have(if none then you know they are probably going to be going later)

They have an advatnage in budget, prestige, and it looks like distance.  But poaching was smart they didn't need to waste money early because your dumb *** would've tried to battle him for the whole recruiting period.

This isn't something every agrees with dumb like hiring/firings.  This is you just ******** about doing a bad job at recruiting which you can easily fix by recruiting better.

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/16/2016 11:35:00 PM (view original):
Probably because of all the poaching that happens at 5pm on signing days with teams who are only better recruiters because of their bank

Of course not. That's just the game. It's strategy, it's competition. Recruiting is a strategy. What to spend and where. How much to keep in case you need to go to plan B. Who is recruiting against you and who is battling that coach on other recruits? It's not meant to be easy. I've had recruits stolen more than once. I learned early on to always have a backup plan. 

Spoken like the true poacher you are onlyis. If FSU had been in the mix at any point I would of gotten out did it with Georgia on another recruit.its the fact that a school can recruit f9r one or two cycles vs three days is the rub. I guess a poacher like yourself can't understand that. Seven pages and 12 site emails tells me I hit a nerve one that needs to be fixed.

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/17/2016 10:39:00 PM (view original):
Spoken like the true poacher you are onlyis. If FSU had been in the mix at any point I would of gotten out did it with Georgia on another recruit.its the fact that a school can recruit f9r one or two cycles vs three days is the rub. I guess a poacher like yourself can't understand that. Seven pages and 12 site emails tells me I hit a nerve one that needs to be fixed.

nah your just mad you suck at this game and try to blame people better than you for something you can easily change.

sucks you're not smart enough to change your ways, would be nice if UAB wasn't stuck in the gutter with a crap coach like you there.

If you wanted to make HD for like rl, you best be updating that resume cause I'm pretty sure UAB would be looking for a new coach a few seasons ago ;)

Posted by willowcards2 on 1/17/2016 10:39:00 PM (view original):
Spoken like the true poacher you are onlyis. If FSU had been in the mix at any point I would of gotten out did it with Georgia on another recruit.its the fact that a school can recruit f9r one or two cycles vs three days is the rub. I guess a poacher like yourself can't understand that. Seven pages and 12 site emails tells me I hit a nerve one that needs to be fixed.

So wait .. if Florida State is battling Florida or Miami for a 5 Star recruit and they know they are going to lose .. so, they opt out of that battle and pick the next best guy they see that they think they can get, before he is signed elsewhere then that is somehow wrong?

If Georgia loses a football recruit to Alabama, do they not try to take a guy they want away from Georgia Tech because Georgia Tech has been recruiting him for a while?

Or does Duke not jump on someone if they lose a top notch recruit to Kentucky, North Carolina, or Kansas .. regardless of when it is during the recruiting cycle.

The whole point of having several days to recruit (in the game) is because not all people have the same amount of time to spend recruiting.  People have real life to deal with (vacations, work, dates, etc.).  Getting on someone first means nothing.  You have to have the resources to keep guys you want. 

I know lots of guys who take walkons so they can protect a recruit they want.  That is a drastic step, but they need the cash to protect a player.  Taking that walkon is a huge issue for depth and the future.  Why should someone who overextends (takes guys who they can't protect) be rewarded while guys who take walkons to not be overextended hurt their team.

I don't normally jump on guys late .. but it is part of the game and it should be.