Posted by CoachSpud on 1/2/2017 12:07:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, some guys keep whining about the game instead of learning it. Don't try to learn something that is beyond your ability. Y'all keep whining and we'll keep laughing at you -- fair enough trade.

Who's "we"?

You got a mouse in your pocket?

I am not a whiner. As Benis and others do, we learn the game but we think some changes are needed.

I don't necessarily disagree but virtually every suggested change moves the D1 problem to users at D2/D3. That's not a "good" change.

Posted by CoachSpud on 1/2/2017 12:07:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, some guys keep whining about the game instead of learning it. Don't try to learn something that is beyond your ability. Y'all keep whining and we'll keep laughing at you -- fair enough trade.

Just because you can learn a game, doesn't mean there aren't changes that would welcomed.

Posted by zhawks on 1/2/2017 3:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachSpud on 1/2/2017 12:07:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, some guys keep whining about the game instead of learning it. Don't try to learn something that is beyond your ability. Y'all keep whining and we'll keep laughing at you -- fair enough trade.

Just because you can learn a game, doesn't mean there aren't changes that would welcomed.

+1

Posted by zhawks on 1/2/2017 3:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by CoachSpud on 1/2/2017 12:07:00 PM (view original):
Yeah, some guys keep whining about the game instead of learning it. Don't try to learn something that is beyond your ability. Y'all keep whining and we'll keep laughing at you -- fair enough trade.

Just because you can learn a game, doesn't mean there aren't changes that would welcomed.

I would ignore him. I challenged him on another rational discussion and didn't even bother to respond. He repeats himself over and over.

Posted by CoachSpud on 1/1/2017 9:59:00 PM (view original):
"I took over this team from a sim, so there was not a single AP already spent to aid me in the second period."

That's very, very weird. Every time I have changed jobs under HD 3.0 the previous sim coach had made recruiting efforts that I could build on. Every time. What did you do to follow up on the efforts the previous sim coach had made?

There was not any effort put in to anyone to build on.

Posted by MikeT23 on 1/2/2017 9:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MonsterTurtl on 1/1/2017 3:03:00 PM (view original):
I am going to have to have these mediocre players that I find for 4 more years.

I know I am complaining, but there is an issue here, almost every good player is spoken for by the time a new coach is able to recruit them. I took over this team from a sim, so there was not a single AP already spent to aid me in the second period. It would be different if I could capitalize on some of the effort that the sim put in, or capitalize on the effort I put into players at my old school. That second option would be realistic, in real life when Buzz Williams left Marquette to come to Virginia Tech, he brought over some of the players he had been recruiting to go to Marquette. The kids are recruited by a coach not a school, most players don't want to go to the school with a coach they don't even know. I would gladly have taken the guys that I was recruiting at Hawaii. This of course would exclude anybody that had already committed. You would just be allowed to carry over some of the effort put into the player to your new school, but you would have to re-offer a scholarship.

Or Jucos for 2-3 years. Or walk-ons for 1 year. You DON'T HAVE to recruit HS freshmen.

There are like 10, and any guy that could help your team in any way is already being recruited, which brings us back to not being able to sign them because of not enough time.

Nonetheless, you don't have to accept mediocre players for 4 seasons.

You do if you can't sign a juco and you only have 7 guys on your roster, so you need to sign some so you don't get stuck with sim recruits, or end up losing all of your games due to fatigue.

Don't change jobs? Seriously, you've given us EVERY reason to not change jobs. Did you not know how it worked?

Posted by MikeT23 on 1/2/2017 5:05:00 PM (view original):
Don't change jobs? Seriously, you've given us EVERY reason to not change jobs. Did you not know how it worked?

I had not changed jobs before in 3.0.

That proves my point, this update has made it extremely difficult to change jobs and succeed in a period of time shorter than 4 years. This is an issue in a game that's main goal is to change jobs multiple times to get to the top levels of D1. In 2.0 you could change jobs and get your kind of recruits in before you even play a game, now you have to recruit bad players (if the team you are going to has more openings than you can succeed with) then play a season, then recruit your first class, then play 3 more seasons with those bad recruits.

Realism?

1980–81	Duke	17–13	6–8	T–5th	NIT Third Round
1981–82	Duke	10–17	4–10	T–6th
1982–83	Duke	11–17	3–11	7th

1961–62	North Carolina	8–9	7–7	T–4th
1962–63	North Carolina	15–6	10–4	3rd
1963–64	North Carolina	12–12	6–8	5th
1964–65	North Carolina	15–9	10–4	T–2nd
1965–66	North Carolina	16–11	8–6	T–3rd

First two all-time greats I thought of didn't exactly come out on fire when they started at their new jobs.