Posted by redcped on 10/30/2020 1:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by thejuice6 on 10/30/2020 12:30:00 AM (view original):
Here's a crazy concept that I've been thinking about...

Trying to use the SCHWARZE/PEDRO "Snake-Style" but combining it with KSTOBER's opinion on the 21st thru 24th picks still having a shot at moving on, what about something like this:

N.L. East: Picks 1, 10, 11 and 20
N.L. Central: Picks 2, 9, 12 and 19
N.L. West: Picks 3, 8, 13 and 18

A.L. East: Picks 4, 7, 14 and 17
A.L. Central: Picks 5, 6, 15 and 16
A.L. West: Picks 21, 22, 23 and 24

Would that be too bizarre to work?

My first reaction there is I'd much rather pick 4-7 than 3rd, because in theory I'd be playing many more games against those 21-24 teams that should (again, theoretically) not be as good.

Pedro's suggestion balances things better in my opinion (1-12-13-24, 2-11-14-23, etc.), but it also makes me wonder why have the top 12 owners from Round 3 be picking their leagues instead of 6. If it's 12, then I assume you'd have them picking 1-A, 1-N, 2-A, 2-N, etc. so they are split up into 12 different sides.

Actually, having the 12 top teams from Round Three select which League/Side they want first pick in was my intent at the beginning. Just wasn't sure where to go after that. The person with the number one pick may want to be in League 3 N.L. The person with the number two pick may want to be in League 5 A.L. After the first twelve picks are made (one on each side of each league - that way, all twelve owners can feel like they're getting a Number One Pick), the rest will fall into place. It's just a matter of figuring out which kind of "Snake-Style" or whatever to go with afterwards.

The only permanent solution I've come up with so far is that the original idea of Picks 1-4 in the N.L. East, 5-8 in the N.L. Central, etc. etc. is total crap and doesn't do much in rewarding anyone in any way.

As far as the possible scenario of so many good "even" choices and only so many good "odd" choices, I don't see that as a big issue either since the least number of choices available in any of the leagues is going to be 30 seasons/teams to pick from (Leagues 1, 2, 3 and 5). League 4 has 40 choices and League 6 - more than that.

Well, to be more specific, if you go with the odd/even rule, there are 15 choices to be selected by 12 owners. So, the person with the 12th pick (in each league) will theoretically get the 4th least desirable team... Without the odd/even rule, the person picking 24th will theoretically get the 7th least desirable team.

Also, if you go odd/even - you still have to split into divisions with the 12-team league.

Posted by thejuice6 on 10/26/2020 7:22:00 PM (view original):
This is perplexing to me. My first thought when I came up with this theme was to just do it in pick order where the first four picks are the N.L. East, and so on and so on. Then I thought, "Well, maybe part of the season pick that someone grabs could also include the division they want to be in. For example, if Pick #1 goes in the N.L. East, maybe pick #2 wants to go in the N.L. Central or the A.L. West. THEN, I thought about well - we could just do a random realignment of all six leagues once all 24 picks are made. Of course, I'd then just have to separate the teams that belong to the same owner as much as I possibly can.

What do you guys think - I'm open to the best idea(s). If we can't get a majority on how the best way to do it would be, then I'll just stick with the original plan (although I didn't post it) and just put the picks in chronological order...

I still vote your your Option #2.

As per what SCHWARZE wrote earlier...

"Having people get to pick which division they play in (whether or not this division selection process starts at pick #1 or pick #7) at least adds some extra strategy. Simple process too... as each person selects their team, they also select their division."


I think I'm leaning more toward this then anything else.

After the Top 12 Owners from Round Three select which league and A.L. or N.L. side they want, I'll then determine the draft order for all six leagues after that. It's at that time that I can do some maneuvering around with placement to keep one owner from having more than one selection per league. Granted, I may not be able to knock out ALL of the possible scenarios but I don't foresee it being a big problem - at least it never has been before.

As the picks from #7 on come rolling in, when the picks are made, they simply state which division they want to be in in that league.

Am I missing anything else here or would this be the fairest way of doing things? We don't need a full 100% approval rate - just a good majority.

Honestly, I'm getting disgusted still talking about this - I'm about ready to just hit "random realignment" however many times it takes on all six leagues...lol.

Posted by thejuice6 on 10/30/2020 5:43:00 PM (view original):
Honestly, I'm getting disgusted still talking about this - I'm about ready to just hit "random realignment" however many times it takes on all six leagues...lol.

I just sitemailed Pat, welcoming him back to the site after his ordeal with COVID. My vote on alignment is for him to do whatever is easy for him.

Posted by thejuice6 on 10/30/2020 5:42:00 PM (view original):
As per what SCHWARZE wrote earlier...

"Having people get to pick which division they play in (whether or not this division selection process starts at pick #1 or pick #7) at least adds some extra strategy. Simple process too... as each person selects their team, they also select their division."


I think I'm leaning more toward this then anything else.

After the Top 12 Owners from Round Three select which league and A.L. or N.L. side they want, I'll then determine the draft order for all six leagues after that. It's at that time that I can do some maneuvering around with placement to keep one owner from having more than one selection per league. Granted, I may not be able to knock out ALL of the possible scenarios but I don't foresee it being a big problem - at least it never has been before.

As the picks from #7 on come rolling in, when the picks are made, they simply state which division they want to be in in that league.

Am I missing anything else here or would this be the fairest way of doing things? We don't need a full 100% approval rate - just a good majority.

So would it work like this? I was unclear whether division choice starts at pick 3 or 7.

Let’s say after the top 12 picked we have schwarze in League 1 AL East and Pedro in League 1 NL East. I have 3rd pick in that league. I can pick from any division, or do I go in NL Central and we keep going until each division has one team in it?

You would pick which division of the six you want your team in. If you want to start filling up one of the other four, you can. If you want to be in the same division with either Pick 1 or 2, you can.

I'm good with that plan. Least work for you, too.

Posted by redcped on 10/30/2020 9:28:00 PM (view original):
I'm good with that plan. Least work for you, too.

Ditto

Random fact on Round 4:

Among my 7 teams, the universe of overlapping players on my 7 rosters consists of ...

Earl Smith
J.D. Drew

I have 12 teams, which works out to exactly 2 per league. I made an effort to pick a different franchise in each league.

Lg 1: Yankees 4's / Giants 9's
Lg 2: Red Sox 0's / Dodgers 3's
Lg 3: Athletics 0's / Braves 7's
Lg 4: White Sox 6's / Cubs 6's
Lg 5: Indians 6's / Pirates 3's

Alas, I didn't pull the trigger on Rangers 1's in league 6 (who I strongly considered) so I do have two Astros teams (9's & 4's) - so obvious player overlap there.