Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/20/2023 1:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 7/20/2023 1:01:00 AM (view original):
Gil:
You white knighting for CS is rich. GFY for real. Like what do you even know about the ticket, other than they continued to confuse HD for GD?

We are paying customers (many of us are anyway) and they are giving us answers that amount to "yes the system is bad, and we know it, but we're not going to do anything about it, because not enough people have complained about it." And now you're telling me that because of the way I've presented it in this thread (how you've read it, and the assumptions you're making about it anyway) I am "emotionally charged" and have done something like a 180 apparently because of a single season, even though that's not what I said at all.

And wasting CS time? Like... what is customer service for, do you suppose? What are their very important tasks that don't involve dealing with the dissatisfaction of customers who have complaints about the product?

If you had bothered to ask - and you should have, before you started babbling about micro-analysis bullish!t in some sort of dominance power play - I would have told you that I am a "convert" in the sense that I now understand recruit generation differently than it was explained before, or at least differently than I understood it. As I said above, I understood it more of like some areas are just generally worse than others; more along the lines of what cub is laying out. And that I can and have lived with. And I do think players generally should adapt. Again, dozens of years in the Pac 10 (including the apparently bad Oregon territory, where I won my first D1 title). But a system capable of producing *this level of barren* is something different, something broken - that's what it feels like to me. Am I being emotional? Whatever dude. I laid this out in the OP, and you didn't seem to have a problem with it. Now suddenly, you get all white knighty. Maybe it was the sativa, who knows.

I thought you laid these thoughts out (the last paragraph) in your OP rather succinctly...a warning that recruit generation is either not working as intended or has a major flaw in the logic. They are general concepts, a general warning. Perhaps you are being baited into digression about minutiae intentionally...

Thank you. And just for the record - I think most folks, including Gil, know this, but some have and probably will twist it the other way - if I was presented this information in a conference where it didn't affect me directly, I would be reacting this way. Send a ticket. Follow up when I don't like the answer. Report in the forums, encourage others to follow up if they think it's a problem *because I've been specifically told by CS that it's not a priority because no one complains about it*. I would do this if this happened to the Pac 10 in any other world I play in, if I found out about it. I found out about it in Tark right away, because well that's where I live. Like I've said, I've seen lean years. I've never seen a year like this, never seen one reported, and if I had, my view on recruit generation would have been different from the start.