Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 9/09/2009C: Most importantly the league Commissioner needs to have total access to the keeper lists and draft process. . . . Progessive leagues tend to lose players every season, the commissioner needs to have access, allowing him to:
1. Access both the draft and keeper lists. Make cuts and draft picks if needed.
2. Add or remove an owner from the league. Many times owners leave in the middle of a draft. The commish needs to take action.
3. The commissioner can set up the parameters for a specific league, progressive/regressive, 1 season steps or multi season steps, multi era leagues, draft order and traded picks.
4. The commissioner should have control of when the process begins and when all cuts are final. He should be able to setup draft times and the length of time for picks
5. Draft picks can be made “off the clock” prior to the official start of the draft.

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We could add a keeper list page to the GM area for multi-season leagues that allow owners to check a theme-specified number of players. These players, or keepers, could then be made available via popup window in the draft center and league office.

When you're talking about "draft" here, are you talking about drafts held in the forums or in the live draft utility?

I'm just not following some of the items here. Could explain in more detail?

Thank


Sorry for the big quotes. I believe these points assume the progressive bookkeeping functions (ie, tracking team rosters, creating and maintaining available players lists, etc.) have been taken over my the computer. If the computer is keeping track of these things it's important that a bailing owner's team, during the draft, can be taken over by the commissioner.

Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 9/09/2009



B: An updated drafting utility linked to our keeper list/team center
The present WIS drafting utility is not perfect and update would be required.
1. A feature to allow owners to make a draft list or queue. That could automatically pick from this list of the owner misses his pick time. A rating system for players would be nice but hard to implement.
2. The available player list would be updated instantly by the system, reducing mistakes both by the league members and the commissioners.
3. The ability to sort through available players by position and future stats for upcoming season (for planning on target seasons).
4. The drafting utility should be capable to be used for the initial draft.

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We could make the change to handle 1 & 2 (assuming you mean once a player is drafted he is removed from the available list). I assume addressing #1 handles #4.

Not sure what you have in mind for 3. Are you saying you want something outside of the player search? If so, how do you envision it?

Just the ability to list all available players with stats in any order based on those stats. Sort all available thirdbasemen by HR's or AVG or BB or ...... If possible it would be nice to do this search/sort of only the available players for any season. Using the example of '70 do you draft Steve Garvey who takes a few years to become a successful hitter or a Ralph Garr you quickly is productive but fades after a few seasons. If your target year is '71 Garr may be the better pick.

Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 9/09/2009




C: Most importantly the league Commissioner needs to have total access to the keeper lists and draft process. Progessive leagues tend to lose players every season, the commissioner needs to have access, allowing him to:
1. Access both the draft and keeper lists. Make cuts and draft picks if needed.
2. Add or remove an owner from the league. Many times owners leave in the middle of a draft. The commish needs to take action.
3. The commissioner can set up the parameters for a specific league, progressive/regressive, 1 season steps or multi season steps, multi era leagues, draft order and traded picks.
4. The commissioner should have control of when the process begins and when all cuts are final. He should be able to setup draft times and the length of time for picks
5. Draft picks can be made “off the clock” prior to the official start of the draft.

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We could add a keeper list page to the GM area for multi-season leagues that allow owners to check a theme-specified number of players. These players, or keepers, could then be made available via popup window in the draft center and league office.

When you're talking about "draft" here, are you talking about drafts held in the forums or in the live draft utility?

Using a draft utility. During a forum draft the commish can easily take over a team.

I'm just not following some of the items here. Could explain in more detail?

I understand I kinda rambled on here, not very clear.

This is mostly just about the fact that the commissioner of the league needs to have total access to the process. Too often owners abandon their teams in the middle of the season or worse during the draft. Any automated system needs togive the ability to the commissioner to "take over" the team. From selection of keepers to making draft picks.

I believe that many of the things listed here already exsist. But the main idea is that the commish needs to have the abilty to setup the league with many different perimeters. Some leagues progress 1 season at at time, some 2. Some leagues have multiple years involved. The "Triple Era Progressive" has 3 distinct eras having begun in 1930, 1950 & 1980 with 2 divisions in each era. Drafts involve only 8 teams per era. Some leagues combine 2 seasons, the Outbackers RTF league began in 1923 & 1963 with all owners drafting from either season.

The last point I threw into this group was the fact that draft picks get traded. The Commish needs to be able to make these changes in the automated draft order.

Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 9/09/2009



D: Many different types of progressives and regressives exist, flexibility would be important.
1. Multi year progressives. Some mixed draft, some with different leagues or divisions using different eras.
2. Mixed progressive/regressive leagues
3. Leagues of mixed player seasons, these leagues players progress though their career year by year. Many different years would be involved. With the ability to “blacklist” players already used.
4. The ability to handle a minor league system, with the rosters/keepers of more than 25 players.
5. Allow leagues to be more public, allow anybody to view your league. But only league members my actually do anything besides looking.
6. The ability to search on multiple criteria (ex) 1958 last year players and 1968 first year players.

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The current system can handle (1) and (2) and (3) by specifying white lists by season.

With (5), are you interested in people being able to see historical standings and team information?

This was brought up when I asked for input from progressive owners in my original post. I believe what was wanted here was the abiltiy to look at any league (look only). This would be a nice feature for any league. I believe that most WIS users would be curious and interested in seeing the standings and stats of any and all leagues. Themes, open or progressives. Curiousity and information. Specificly for progressives, having the ability to look at a leagues history could be a great recruitment tool for replacing a lost owner.

4 & 6 are difficult but possible.

Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 9/09/2009



2: Improvement of the league/player history.

A: Presently league/player stats can be viewed individually but needs improvement.
1. The ability to have a career leader board including active and retired players. This should be sortable like the present season leaderboard.
2. Team career stats, again sortable.
3. A league HOF feature would be great, upon retirement league members could nominate and vote.
4. A simple listing of all players for a specific seasons including players on DL or Military Service.
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(1) & (2) are doable.

(3) is much more complicated but doable.

I would love to see this one, we as progressive owners do get attached to our players. To be able to 'remember' our stars would be a fantastic addition the the feel of progressives.

(4) could you elaborate?

Many times in a progressive when a player has no WIS season for injury, drug suspension (Steve Howe) or military service (the 1940's) that player get 'lost', off of keeper lists and available player lists. If the gap in a players seasons could be filled somehow so these players don't get lost.

Quote: Originally Posted By tzentmeyer on 9/14/2009At this point, I think I have a decent understanding of what's been laid out. But I'm not confident enough to put together a design of what it all entails.

I think the best scenario would be for me to join one of the progressive leagues you guys have going and ask more detailed questions along the way. After a season or two, I think we'll have a much deeper understanding and, at that point, really begin to crank out what everyone is looking for.

Does that sound reasonable? If so, please let me know when there's an opening and I'll jump in.

Thank


Sitemail sent - I've got two openings for a draft that's starting in the next day or two.