You can't assign AP until 8 AM EST/5 AM PST. If they processed at 11 AM EST/8 AM PST, people would miss a cycle. Potentially 140 AP. It's a 3 hour window not a 6 hour window. Whether you show miss the 5PM EST/2 PM PST cycle or not or many others, you have assigned your initial AP and they are processing until a player with assigned AP is signed.

Posted by MikeT23 on 1/10/2018 10:37:00 AM (view original):
You can't assign AP until 8 AM EST/5 AM PST. If they processed at 11 AM EST/8 AM PST, people would miss a cycle. Potentially 140 AP. It's a 3 hour window not a 6 hour window. Whether you show miss the 5PM EST/2 PM PST cycle or not or many others, you have assigned your initial AP and they are processing until a player with assigned AP is signed.

I understand this part Mike. I'm saying instead of the first cycle starting at 8am and processing at 5pm, why can't they just make it "Recruiting starts at 11am"? It would still first process at 5pm. The same as it does now. But all the arguing about why it's an advantage/disadvantage to some, should go away.

My point is, the first cycle should be no longer or shorter than the rest. Make the 1st one 6 hours like all of them. A person that shows up for every cycle is gonna show up for every cycle regardless.

And there's no one that NEEDS an extra 3 hours on the first cycle (like it is currently), that wouldn't NEED an extra 3 hours on every cycle. That extra 3 hours on the first cycle isn't gonna make or break anyone!

They should just start it at 11. So there's no griping from anyone. I don't see how any person would make a random argument (if ALL cycles were 6 hours), and say, "wouldn't it be cool if that very 1st cycle started 3 hours earlier, and all the rest of them stayed the same?"

I just don't see the point in it. Or the benefits

The answer is to allow initial AP assignment at any damn point you want prior to the first processing cycle. Why should the first action have a window?

Because all cycles have a window. 6 hours. Why do people need 3 more hours the first cycle to apply AP? We all do just fine every other cycle that's 6 hours. I don't need 9 hours, 1/20th of recruiting... To do what i do in 6 hours, the other 19/20ths of recruiting.

I'm just trying to understand what people would want the extra time for. I'm listening....

I just wanna know the benefits of it.

Also, for ME.... I don't care about the time either way. They can keep it how it is and I'm fine. It doesn't affect ME personally at all.

If it started at 430pm and processed at 5pm, I'd get mine in there. I know others have different schedules and that would not be that easy. BUT... if someone is having trouble with their personal schedules, they are NOT only having that conflict on the first day of recruiting. They have the same conflict every day of recruiting. I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

Posted by MikeT23 on 1/10/2018 11:06:00 AM (view original):
The answer is to allow initial AP assignment at any damn point you want prior to the first processing cycle. Why should the first action have a window?

I am a huge fan of this idea.

If in this statement, you and Mike mean.... Any damn point during the season, up until the first cycle processes..... I think that would be a great idea also.

That's not what I was debating earlier. I was debating the difference between 8am-5pm compared to if it were 11am-5pm. That 8am time causes discussions and opinion differences that i think are not necessary.

This idea would fix that immediately

Posted by topdogggbm on 1/10/2018 11:20:00 AM (view original):
Also, for ME.... I don't care about the time either way. They can keep it how it is and I'm fine. It doesn't affect ME personally at all.

If it started at 430pm and processed at 5pm, I'd get mine in there. I know others have different schedules and that would not be that easy. BUT... if someone is having trouble with their personal schedules, they are NOT only having that conflict on the first day of recruiting. They have the same conflict every day of recruiting. I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

Not necessarily. I play ball out of town. On the weekends but not every weekend. My schedule is different. Some people work M-F. Some only work two days a week and weekends. Some people travel. Some may attend a funeral on any given Wednesday. You may be the only person here with the same schedule 365 days a year.

I get that explanation too. And in reality, i don't care no matter how things are set up here. I just thought that starting it at 11am in writing, would quiet the noise. If not, I'm wrong and that's perfectly fine.

And my schedule is not the same 365 either. No matter how many funerals i attend, how much or how little i work, recruiting starts on different days periodically. I haven't found myself thinking "wow every single season recruiting starts, for each of all my teams, I'm glad that i have those extra 3 hours ONLY on the first cycle (and not the rest of the cycles). Because it changes everything about my recruiting style/success/needs."

The idea of putting your initial AP points on anytime throughout the season before RS1 starts would obviously solve this for everyone.

I'm sorry to ruffle anyone's feathers here about this. It's just odd to me that, in a game that we play, that we (somewhat) have to check back in every 6 hours, some people have multiple teams, and "can" require a decent amount of time to participate in.... that this miniscule 3 hours extra has a big impact for people. But apparently it does. So I'm glad everyone that needs it is benefiting from it.

It's an extra 6 hours. It's either a 3 hour period or a 9 hour period. Math sez "extra 6 hours".

No. Maybe you're only understanding half of what I'm saying.

I'm NOT a person in favor of... Starts at 8am. First cycle processes at 11am. Next at 5pm.

I AM discussing..... On the first day of recruiting, nothing happens at 8am. No mention of 8am. Instead.... Recruiting starts at 11am (which is when you could first put AP on), and first cycle processes at 5pm.

And my point with that, is that it would make the first cycle 6 hours long. Equal to the rest. And for the people that don't want an extra 11am cycle processed, there wouldn't be one. And for the people that don't like that it takes 9 hours long for the first cycle to process, it would only be 6. Equal to all other cycles.

Posted by topdogggbm on 1/10/2018 1:20:00 PM (view original):
No. Maybe you're only understanding half of what I'm saying.

I'm NOT a person in favor of... Starts at 8am. First cycle processes at 11am. Next at 5pm.

I AM discussing..... On the first day of recruiting, nothing happens at 8am. No mention of 8am. Instead.... Recruiting starts at 11am (which is when you could first put AP on), and first cycle processes at 5pm.

And my point with that, is that it would make the first cycle 6 hours long. Equal to the rest. And for the people that don't want an extra 11am cycle processed, there wouldn't be one. And for the people that don't like that it takes 9 hours long for the first cycle to process, it would only be 6. Equal to all other cycles.

This is being OCD for the sake of being OCD. The 9 hour cycle hurts no one and likely helps a relatively small group of coaches with a busy schedule.

Posted by topdogggbm on 1/10/2018 1:20:00 PM (view original):
No. Maybe you're only understanding half of what I'm saying.

I'm NOT a person in favor of... Starts at 8am. First cycle processes at 11am. Next at 5pm.

I AM discussing..... On the first day of recruiting, nothing happens at 8am. No mention of 8am. Instead.... Recruiting starts at 11am (which is when you could first put AP on), and first cycle processes at 5pm.

And my point with that, is that it would make the first cycle 6 hours long. Equal to the rest. And for the people that don't want an extra 11am cycle processed, there wouldn't be one. And for the people that don't like that it takes 9 hours long for the first cycle to process, it would only be 6. Equal to all other cycles.

If I were you I'd drop this.

Posted by topdogggbm on 1/10/2018 11:14:00 AM (view original):
Because all cycles have a window. 6 hours. Why do people need 3 more hours the first cycle to apply AP? We all do just fine every other cycle that's 6 hours. I don't need 9 hours, 1/20th of recruiting... To do what i do in 6 hours, the other 19/20ths of recruiting.

I'm just trying to understand what people would want the extra time for. I'm listening....

I just wanna know the benefits of it.

Fwiw, I basically have zero phone and zero internet access at my job. Being able to assign APs before leaving the house in the morning is a big plus for me.

Good lord. "I'd drop this"? I'm not even fighting FOR this. I was trying to help Mike understand the point i was making. And my whole point was a suggestion IF it was helpful for some. This is hilarious to me that people are upset.

As i mentioned, for me, it doesn't apply. I thought a complaint of some, was that it takes 9 hours for the first cycle to process. Regarding the OCD thing, i kind of agree, it is. But if it was helpful to things, it was just a thought.

And as I'm seeing here, it clearly helps some people. Which is great. I'm literally happy for those it helps. So overall..... Cool. Bad idea. I'm done with it. I'm wrong. No big deal. End of story.