me too, I like it more when they can score runs

getting on base = scoring runs

striking out= no runs

Quote: Originally Posted By _nuke_ on 4/25/2008

Quote: Originally posted by a3morey on 4/24/2008making outs= no runs

have you never witnessed a sacrifice fly? or a fielder's choice?

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I agree that overall a strikeout is the same as any other out, but I think where the contact and put the ball in play thing comes in is that if you make contact you have at least some chance of getting a hit even if it is horribly weak contact. That's why pitchers who miss bats are so sought after, and why not K'ing is liked so much. A fair amount of hits will come off of batters getting jammed, bloop plays, or high choppers, and squibblers down the line. Roy Halladay seems to give up 2-3 hits off of crappy bounces everytime I watch him. I know there are guys like Maddux,who have been awesome without K'ing people but even his best seasons came when he struckout the most guys.

So I would think you would want guys who K less given all other things equal. Of course that doesn't exactly work in real life since power guys tend to K more, and thats pretty much a rule. In HBD though, you could isolate it since its just a rating.

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good thread

Wow, I wish I had seen this thread back when it was relevant. But at this point, who cares.

You need to start with the original Diagnostics for Leadoff Hitters.

I like my leadoff hitters to make contact.

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More like a cancerous lump.

I think leadoff hitters should strikeout a ton