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Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/03/2009

She knows the policy. She understands world events. She doesnt really think that being close to Russia makes her a foreign policy expert.




I've seen absolutely no evidence provided from her that she either knows the policy or understands world events. The only thing she knows of them is of what she's been told to say by the extreme right-wing talking heads.

As far as being governor, that does not solely mean an individual is qualified to be President. There are many people who have been great governors, but would be lousy Presidents. Haley Barbour on the Republican side and Howard Dean on the Democratic side would be 2 great examples. They are and were both pretty good governors. However, their extremist views would never work as Presidential material. Sarah Palin falls into that group. She might have been a decent governor (although, I certainly can't excuse her for quitting on the job), but her extremist views on many issues would never make her a good candidate or a good President.
12/3/2009 3:30 PM
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I didnt say the majority doesnt exist. I said they may not be an actual majority. Silent Majority is just a sexy name. I do not belive they are in "Lockstep" with my ideals.

You seem to be purposly trying to distort my position. I siad they hear me talk and express support. That does not mean they want me as their Cult Leader

And my religion, well documentedm is Atheist.
12/3/2009 3:34 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By rigbystarr on 12/03/2009rigbystarr, human mage, WO
My Alliance are in Silver Hand and my Horde are in Dalaran.
12/3/2009 3:34 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/03/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 12/03/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 12/03/2009

She's already been the equivalent of President. The governorship is the Chief Executive office of a state. You really didn't pay attention in Civics class, did you?

She might not be Mensa or even above average, but her qualifications for President exceeded BHO's.

i hate to start talking politics, this not being the right forum and all, but really?...so anyone with executive experience has the qualifications necessary to be president? grasp of policy has nothing to do with one's qualifications to be president? where does one get their initial executive experience if in order to be qualified for an executive position you need prior executive experience?...you can make many valid arguments about the relative merits of Palin and Obama, but what you've trotted out is utter nonsense
Well if she had failed as a Governor, or if she had not had jobs like the Chairman of the Alsakan Energy Commission you could make that argument.

She knows the policy. She understands world events. She doesnt really think that being close to Russia makes her a foreign policy expert.

I think a great quote was Dennis Prager said "What she doesnt know she can learn, but what she does know cannot be taught"!

first off, i wasn't making any claims about Palin's qualifications, my point was that her having executive experience and Obama not having executive experience did not in and of itself make her more qualified to be president...but since you bring up her record as governor, how does quitting in the middle of her term not at least qualify in some way as failing at her job? (and before someone snarkily says, "well Obama didn't finish his term as senator either" lets be real and acknowledge they are completely different circumstances)
12/3/2009 3:35 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 12/03/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/03/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 12/03/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 12/03/2009

She's already been the equivalent of President. The governorship is the Chief Executive office of a state. You really didn't pay attention in Civics class, did you?

She might not be Mensa or even above average, but her qualifications for President exceeded BHO's.

i hate to start talking politics, this not being the right forum and all, but really?...so anyone with executive experience has the qualifications necessary to be president? grasp of policy has nothing to do with one's qualifications to be president? where does one get their initial executive experience if in order to be qualified for an executive position you need prior executive experience?...you can make many valid arguments about the relative merits of Palin and Obama, but what you've trotted out is utter nonsense
Well if she had failed as a Governor, or if she had not had jobs like the Chairman of the Alsakan Energy Commission you could make that argument.

She knows the policy. She understands world events. She doesnt really think that being close to Russia makes her a foreign policy expert.

I think a great quote was Dennis Prager said "What she doesnt know she can learn, but what she does know cannot be taught"!

first off, i wasn't making any claims about Palin's qualifications, my point was that her having executive experience and Obama not having executive experience did not in and of itself make her more qualified to be president...but since you bring up her record as governor, how does quitting in the middle of her term not at least qualify in some way as failing at her job? (and before someone snarkily says, "well Obama didn't finish his term as senator either" lets be real and acknowledge they are completely different circumstances
It isnt like she was running a lemonade stand, She was a Governor, job right below President.

And if we are going to play that game, what are Obama's qualification's? He has never really accomplished anything.
12/3/2009 4:08 PM
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What kind of snowblower should I get?
12/3/2009 4:13 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By kermit on 12/03/2009What kind of snowblower should I get
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12/3/2009 4:32 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 12/03/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/03/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 12/03/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 12/03/2009

She's already been the equivalent of President. The governorship is the Chief Executive office of a state. You really didn't pay attention in Civics class, did you?

She might not be Mensa or even above average, but her qualifications for President exceeded BHO's.

i hate to start talking politics, this not being the right forum and all, but really?...so anyone with executive experience has the qualifications necessary to be president? grasp of policy has nothing to do with one's qualifications to be president? where does one get their initial executive experience if in order to be qualified for an executive position you need prior executive experience?...you can make many valid arguments about the relative merits of Palin and Obama, but what you've trotted out is utter nonsense
Well if she had failed as a Governor, or if she had not had jobs like the Chairman of the Alsakan Energy Commission you could make that argument.

She knows the policy. She understands world events. She doesnt really think that being close to Russia makes her a foreign policy expert.

I think a great quote was Dennis Prager said "What she doesnt know she can learn, but what she does know cannot be taught"!

first off, i wasn't making any claims about Palin's qualifications, my point was that her having executive experience and Obama not having executive experience did not in and of itself make her more qualified to be president...but since you bring up her record as governor, how does quitting in the middle of her term not at least qualify in some way as failing at her job? (and before someone snarkily says, "well Obama didn't finish his term as senator either" lets be real and acknowledge they are completely different circumstances
I'm not even super-enamored of Palin, but my god, you Palin-haters are complete douchebags.

SHE WASN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, OBAMA WAS. She was essentially running against Biden, a known cheat and bumbler. If you want to say Biden was more qualified than she was based on his Senatorial tenure, fine. I can see that. If you say that Obama is more qualified based on his experience, you're a partisan dumbass.
12/3/2009 4:43 PM
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swamp, if you're not going to read my posts and respond to their content then then arguing with you is even more pointless than i first suspected...governor is not just below president (that would not be vice president) and my point is that being governor does not make her more or less qualified that Obama to be president...had she been running a lemonade stand, she would not have been criticized for quitting...again Obama's resume does not make him more or less qualified to be president (what makes him more qualified than Palin IMHO is his grasp on policy issues, although i concede reasonable minds can differ on this)
12/3/2009 4:44 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/03/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By kermit on 12/03/2009
What kind of snowblower should I get?
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DUDE!!! That's what I was thinking too.
12/3/2009 4:51 PM
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todd, i was simply refuting your claim that holding an executive position made her more qualified than Obama...i never said Obama was more qualified based on his experience...if you want to resort to name calling, thats your prerogative, but please don't put words in my mouth in order to build a straw man for yourself
12/3/2009 4:56 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By kermit on 12/03/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By swamphawk22 on 12/03/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By kermit on 12/03/2009
What kind of snowblower should I get?
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DUDE!!! That's what I was thinking too
Well, maybe not that exact model but a Craftsman.
12/3/2009 5:00 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By bighead34 on 12/03/2009todd, i was simply refuting your claim that holding an executive position made her more qualified than Obama...i never said Obama was more qualified based on his experience...if you want to resort to name calling, thats your prerogative, but please don't put words in my mouth in order to build a straw man for yoursel
OK, so are you saying that they're TIED? I said that Palin's governorship (of a 3rd rate state, but a governorship nonetheless) of Alaska meant that she was more qualified for executive office than Obama. You said I was wrong.

So, unless you're saying that Obama is more qualified, you're saying that they're tied. These are your own claims, not some straw man.
12/3/2009 5:05 PM
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my only claim was that her executive experience does not, in and of itself, make her more qualified to be president...i guess the sports analogy would be along the lines of: a minor league manager isn't necessarily more qualified to be manager of a big league than say a big league coach who has never managed at any level...managerial or executive experience can be a plus over another candidate without it, but it is not the sole qualification
12/3/2009 5:59 PM
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But Obama wasn't even a big league coach. He was the political equivalent of the mascot, or possibly it's more akin to making Jerry Coleman the manager of the Padres because he was the radio voice. He had less national experience than 90% of Congress, so I while I see your Palin point, to claim Obama was even remotely quaified for the Presidency is folly.

12/3/2009 6:05 PM
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