Is this Collusion? Topic

Quote: Originally Posted By mrpolo09 on 1/04/2010collusion would be if Coach A got information that he couldn't obtain himself from Coach B.
tec, a serious question. Don't you get tired of guys misunderstanding what "collusion" is?
1/4/2010 12:16 PM
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1/4/2010 12:53 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By snake_p on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By mrpolo09 on 1/04/2010
collusion would be if Coach A got information that he couldn't obtain himself from Coach B.
tec, a serious question. Don't you get tired of guys misunderstanding what "collusion" is?
I get tired of you posting in the forums, self-proclaimed alias.
1/4/2010 1:11 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 1/04/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By snake_p on 1/04/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By mrpolo09 on 1/04/2010
collusion would be if Coach A got information that he couldn't obtain himself from Coach B.
tec, a serious question. Don't you get tired of guys misunderstanding what "collusion" is?
I get tired of you posting in the forums, self-proclaimed alias.
Okay, good enough. I thought you were capable of a serious answer to a serious question. My bad.
1/4/2010 2:24 PM
Sorry. I don't take any of your posts seriously. Does that clear things up for you?
1/4/2010 2:36 PM
Absolutely, no prob. Probably wise. No point in trying to converse when you aren't equipped for it.

Carry on -- it's your sandbox.
1/4/2010 2:47 PM
This thread is like Fight Club. Every couple of days there's a different bare-knuckle brawl between two different guys!
1/4/2010 2:55 PM
It's more like snake mirror boxing in an empty room. With all his friends.
1/4/2010 3:02 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mrpolo09 on 1/04/2010
snake. i didnt say this was the definition of collusion. i merely [incorrectly] cited how it applies in this situation. collusion has many forms in HBD.
No, people in HBD have many different incorrect ideas about what is collusion. That is exactly the problem I was shining light on, and your post and this thread are good examples (see the post below this one).

Some people even believe any off-the-record conversation between coaches is collusion, simply because it is off the record. That would make every trade negotiation, for example, illegal, an obviously ludicrous proposition.
1/4/2010 6:20 PM
Trade chats about players already in the world is not bending any rules.

Sharing projected ratings before a draft does bend/break the rules of the game. One owner is being given access to information that he should not have access to. Therefore, it is collusion.

This should be clear to most rational people.
1/4/2010 6:58 PM
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1/5/2010 4:00 AM
Don't feel bad, WIS has much the same problem. For example: "If two or more teams in the same league are under the same account, they must be controlled by different people sharing that account, but not sharing the teams." That is actually a quote, cut and pasted from the "Fair Play Guidelines." Nowhere does it say how they can know who is using the computer or sharing the account. So, there seem to be three possibilities:

1. Do You Believe in Magic? {Does anyone remember the Lovin' Spoonful?}

2. They're just blowin' smoke ... again.

3. As in GD, they'll handle it on a case by case basis. Oh, wait, that's the same as #2.

I think part of the reason, maybe almost the entire reason, that there are so many discussions of "collusion" in the forums is that WIS itself allows it and at the same time struggles to act as if they don't allow it. They could simply disable any account whose owner is caught cheating, and cheating would almost disappear from the site. They choose not to. That is their choice. As with any individual, when you look at a corporation that says one thing and does the opposite, you must believe the behavior, not the empty talk.
1/5/2010 12:14 PM
And accounts cost nothing, snake. In fact, you can make a new account using a free yahoo e-mail account as the e-mail address. Cheaters will just find another way in if one is blocked.
1/7/2010 6:34 AM
A. Block the computer. Cheaters would eventually run out of new computers to play from.

B. An atmosphere where cheaters are disabled is 1,000% different from the current atmosphere where cheaters are ignored as long as they keep sending WIS their greenbacks.
1/7/2010 11:56 AM
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