Every time you try to explain how this isn't a vanity post I keep hearing Mark McGuire say he only took steroids because of injuries and it didn't make him hit more home runs.

Quote: Originally Posted By TheJester74 on 1/14/2010Every time you try to explain how this isn't a vanity post I keep hearing Mark McGuire say he only took steroids because of injuries and it didn't make him hit more home runs.

Who?

I just checked the NL A/S at 2B in seasons 7-12(when he was my full-time 2B). Only one has had a comparable career. 534 HR/.862 OPS(he's actually sitting the bench for me now).

I'm thinking my penchant for resting players early in the season based on how many PA I think they can get might have hurt his A/S appearances.

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Every time I see you post in this thread I think "He said he wasn't interested in these types of threads. Why does he keep reading it and commenting? Is he stupid or something?"

Jamey jacks a homer and sits at 1998 hits/399 homers. Two games in the season.

I assume this guys belongs to the HoF. I knwo there are better players with better numbers and more awards but does the end of his career hurt him in anyway. Also does the fact tha he played in Colorado make a differance?

Season	Franchise	LVL	Games	AB's	Runs Scored	Hits	2B	3B	Hr	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1	COL	ML	157	598	178	237	36	11	83	220	87	49	0	1	.396	.476	.910	1.386
2	COL	ML	158	598	174	216	35	15	75	198	78	70	0	1	.361	.434	.846	1.280
3	COL	ML	162	617	164	223	39	3	80	219	74	80	0	2	.361	.430	.823	1.253
4	COL	ML	161	631	125	211	38	8	61	161	59	92	0	1	.334	.393	.710	1.103
5	COL	ML	158	609	167	219	27	3	75	204	73	80	0	0	.360	.425	.783	1.208
6	COL	ML	139	527	125	185	34	3	42	139	59	76	0	0	.351	.422	.666	1.088
7	COL	ML	159	506	101	159	25	5	34	105	60	85	0	1	.314	.390	.585	.975
8	COL	ML	116	430	87	153	17	3	38	106	43	60	0	0	.356	.417	.674	1.091
9	OMA	ML	144	399	53	110	18	2	16	51	29	86	0	0	.276	.326	.451	.777
10	OMA	ML	159	409	41	91	18	2	6	37	29	83	0	1	.222	.278	.320	.598
11	COL	ML	144	321	33	91	10	1	12	43	20	65	0	0	.283	.327	.433	.760
12	COL	ML	122	190	17	48	3	1	3	23	14	42	0	0	.253	.311	.326	.637
Career	Totals	ML	1779	5835	1265	1943	300	57	525	1506	625	868	0	7	.333	.399	.674	1.073

MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	1	ML	NL	Most Valuable Player
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	1	ML	NL	All-Star Team
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	1	ML	NL	Silver Slugger LF
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	2	ML	NL	All-Star Team
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	2	ML	NL	Silver Slugger LF
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	3	ML	NL	Most Valuable Player
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	3	ML	NL	All-Star Team
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	3	ML	NL	Silver Slugger LF
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	4	ML	NL	Most Valuable Player
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	4	ML	NL	All-Star Team
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	4	ML	NL	Silver Slugger LF
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	5	ML	NL	Most Valuable Player
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	5	ML	NL	All-Star Team
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	5	ML	NL	Silver Slugger LF
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	5	ML	NL	Gold Glove LF
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	6	ML	NL	All-Star Team
MILE HIGH CLUB	Fregoe	7	ML	NL	All-Star Team

Now, that's just silly. 500+ homers, .333 BA and 1.000+ OPS.

Yes, the fact he's played in Colorado does play a role in evaluating the player, in my mind.

Yes, as Mike alluded to, he is clearly a Hall of Famer.

Yeah, the thin atmosphere certainly inflated his numbers, but its not like he was playing on the moon. He's just a great player. The season 5 gold glove should be the clincher for anyone reluctant to put him in on the first ballot.

Zero stolen bases for his career? He's a scrub.

Yeah, you'd think after he got caught stealing the first 6 times, he'd just stop running.

well the reason i ask... everyone who has been in the league regards him as product of Co and I can see him not getting the votes to get in.

Well, not to be mean, but I'd regard him as a bit of a product of some 'tarded up competition. 75+ homers 4 times, 198+ RBI 4 times and .360+ BA 4 times indicates more than playing in Colorado. After all, he only gets 81 games a year there.

Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/15/2010Well, not to be mean, but I'd regard him as a bit of a product of some 'tarded up competition. 75+ homers 4 times, 198+ RBI 4 times and .360+ BA 4 times indicates more than playing in Colorado. After all, he only gets 81 games a year there

it def was... but wasnt all of HBD tarded up the first few season?