Team Composition List

hacker7: Wilt Chamberlain, Buck Williams, ML Carr, Mark Jackson, Raja Bell,
banditone: Shaquille O'Neal, Connie Hawkins, Kevin McHale, Mark Price, Leandro Barbosa,
gtak: Moses Malone, Grant Hill, Brandon Roy, Mike Bibby, Theo Ratliff,
dh555: Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, Robert Parish, Emeka Okafor, Mike Miller
longtallbrad: Magic Johnson, Marcus Camby, Reggie Miller, Antawn Jamison, Willis Reed
lhtgk: Chris Paul, Kevin Willis, David Lee, Danny Granger, Clyde Lee,
empdenied: Kareem A. Jabbar, Dana Barros, Donyell Marshall, Harry Gallatin, Jayson Williams,
ncih: Dennis Rodman, Mel Daniels, Penny Hardaway, Adrian Dantley, Damon Jones,
uvasooner: Shawn Marion, Wes Unseld, Terry Porter, Zelmo Beaty, Michael Williams,
ashamael: Charles Barkley, Artis Gilmore, Kevin Johnson, Michael Redd, Jason Richardson,
omegax: LeBron James, Jason Kidd, Bill Laimbeer, Wesley Person, Bill Bridges,
tricky24: David Robinson, Troy Murphy, Kevin Durant, Jose Calderon, Horace Grant,
jakotay: Dwight Howard, Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Walt Frazier, Spencer Haywood,
eleibowitz: Bill Russell, Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, Marques Johnson
scudmissle: Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Tom Boerwinkle, Michael Cage,
coachcroft: Larry Bird, Sven Nater, Chris Mullin, Don Buse,
tarheel1991: Chauncey Billups, Paul Pierce, Bill Walton, Danny Ainge,
98average: Peja Stojakovic, Ray Allen, Mookie Blaylock, Bob Lanier,
captainzen: Dwayne Wade, Ben Wallace, Fat Lever, Amare Stoudamire,
garyman: Jerry Lucas, Karl Malone, Scottie Pippen, Terrell Brandon
cenquist: Tim Duncan, John Stockton, Walt Bellamy, Glen Rice,
shapandrew7: Hakeem Olajuwon, Steve Nash, Red Robbins, Clyde Drexler,
sappy: Oscar Robertson, Dikembe Mutombo, Vince Carter, Carlos Boozer,
bsmuke: Bob McAdoo, Deron Williams, Julius Erving, Chris Bosh,

Quote: Originally posted by ashamael on 2/12/2010


tarheel1991: Chauncey Billups, Paul Pierce, Bill Walton,

I love this. I know what you're doing, and I approve. I don't know if it'll work out in the long run, but I really, really like where you're going.

Haha - that's a lot to live up to. I hope my Ainge pick and my next few don't ruin all the good vibes.

By the way, after all my talk about having an entire team picked out in the draft center, I took the team apart and put it back together after my first two picks, hence Walton and Ainge (who weren't there before). I think it's better now - and I think I have a decent shot at filling it out the way I want - but we'll see.

Quote: Originally posted by ashamael on 2/12/2010
dh555: Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, Robert Parish,


Love Jordan. Don't care for the pairing with Payton. I think you'll end up spending too much on your backcourt to take care of your frontcourt and will still lack in the area of threes. Unless you use a particular Jordan and particular Payton season... and then you're going to be spending bank. HOWEVER, I love the idea of taking it hard to the opposition with the guards. The Glove and his royal Airness will punish the plethora of sub-50 defenders you're going to face. Parish is always a nice front court guy in this league.

your right on with this one....youd think i would have learned something from the last odl.....but no.....i do the same exact thing and blow my load on the first two picks...i got caught up with the sexy do it all backcourt combo of jordan and payton and didnt even consider the fact that i wouldnt be able to afford a decent frontcourt...especially with the long wait between picks 3 and 4 making the choices even slimmer...im gonna have to really dig deep to find the right combo to make this work and will probably be short on minutes...im hoping to still be able to use payton and jordans top seasons but might have to make sacrifices....ughhh would love a do over

ps. if anyone wants to trade for payton im listening

Quote: Originally Posted By dh555 on 2/13/2010

Quote: Originally posted by ashamael on 2/12/2010
dh555: Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, Robert Parish,


Love Jordan. Don't care for the pairing with Payton. I think you'll end up spending too much on your backcourt to take care of your frontcourt and will still lack in the area of threes. Unless you use a particular Jordan and particular Payton season... and then you're going to be spending bank. HOWEVER, I love the idea of taking it hard to the opposition with the guards. The Glove and his royal Airness will punish the plethora of sub-50 defenders you're going to face. Parish is always a nice front court guy in this league.

your right on with this one....youd think i would have learned something from the last odl.....but no.....i do the same exact thing and blow my load on the first two picks...i got caught up with the sexy do it all backcourt combo of jordan and payton and didnt even consider the fact that i wouldnt be able to afford a decent frontcourt...especially with the long wait between picks 3 and 4 making the choices even slimmer...im gonna have to really dig deep to find the right combo to make this work and will probably be short on minutes...im hoping to still be able to use payton and jordans top seasons but might have to make sacrifices....ughhh would love a do over

ps. if anyone wants to trade for payton im listening

You and your record get NO do overs!!!!

yea but im killing it with these failed draft teams haha

If it makes you feel any better, dh, I spent 19-mill on my first two picks. I'm definitely using most expensive Gilmore, and the Chuck I'm using will cost 8.6+ million. But I knew, going in, that I was going to go real cheap with my wings. I'll get punished (by teams like yours, in fact) for doing that, but I think it'll be okay because I'll be strong in areas few teams are.

yea i was thinking i could take a hit with boards and grab a cheap sf that fires up 3s...might be my best option...sucks that glen rice and his ridiculous contract just went

Kind of surprised Jamison fell this far since he's a sim favorite these days. Nice offensive balance so far, and the flexibility to grab the best affordable forward in the next round.

I was heavily debating between him and Redd, brad. Heavily. I changed my mind about three times before selecting Redd.

wow, this dead. I guess scud is too busy with his brainchild draft ;).


Some quick thoughts of my own:

ash - team is gonna score a ton, all five guys do it well. But maybe too much offense, not enough defense? Probably Gilmore is the only great defender so far...possibly some def. specialists coming later? Could be a good test of how important def ratings really are.


tricky - have to think that team is way short on minutes, right? like the five guys, but probably still needs like 4000-5000 minutes without a bunch of cash. have to think that could hurt you.


omegax - smart to offset lebron/kidd with some low TO guys, but another team with maybe too much efficiency, not enough minutes? If you use the most expensive Kidd, you're in a serious salary crunch, so you probably won't. I think Lebron will see a lot of doubleteams with this setup, but it could work.


captainzen - to me, this is the scariest looking team out there. great scoring from three guys, huge numbers from wallace, great defense. seems to me that i haven't seen fat on a lot of very good teams, might just be coincidence. Stoudemire is a weak rebounder, but the guards definitely make up for it.


dh555 - this is a team that could be a very good team, or could be a miserable failure. At least that's the sense I get. Rebounding could be an issue, or not, since payton and jordan have some solid rebounding seasons. Still need a good chunk of minutes, too, so we'll see what happens there. This should at least be a good defensive team, but I've always thought Payton was a guy that didn't deliver for the price.


lhtgk - I think this team is in serious trouble (remember, just an opinion!). But I'm used to building uptempo teams, and this is clearly not an uptempo team, so I might not just understand it very well. You're good on rebounding, but if you're using the seasons I think you will be it looks like you need about 5k more minutes, more assists, more outside scoring, more FT attempts...all with about $6 mil . gonna be tough.

Oh, and so as not to confuse anyone, this is tarheel1991 (different ID). also, I would like to add that, looking at my team from an outside perspective, I would think it totally sucks. That's the beauty of the ODL - one pick can make a team go from muddled uncertainty to a perfect fit. So no real great analysis (aka not total guesses) can be done until after the draft.

Quote: Originally Posted By heelamonster on 2/15/2010wow, this dead. I guess scud is too busy with his brainchild draft ;).

yeah, doin' my own analysis over there... called: sassy-butt evals... lol. no mercy. poignant. insightful... and full of crap.

Quote: Originally posted by heelamonster on 2/15/2010team is gonna score a ton, all five guys do it well. But maybe too much offense, not enough defense?

There's almost no such thing as the first. The second isn't far behind, but no, I don't waste money on 90+ defenders in a $42 million league unless they do a BUNCH of other things I want.

ps - I did what I normally do in these things and drafted a back-up before round 6. I'm scared sh!tless that someone will remember my rotation from my 'ship team and screw it up. Lot of players go between now and then, too...

Team Composition Listhacker7: Wilt Chamberlain, Buck Williams, ML Carr, Mark Jackson, Raja Bell,

Hmmm. Looking at the five of these guys, it makes me think you're going to use one of the high-octane, high-usage Wilts, maybe even Wiltzilla himself. If so, I like this set-up. I don't care for it if you were going for the support-role Wilt. Jackson is the wrong guy at the point in the latter case, but one of the best in the former. Buck and Bell are good in either case. Still don't like the carr pick overly much, but I can dig the general vibe of this team.



banditone: Shaquille O'Neal, Connie Hawkins, Kevin McHale, Mark Price, Leandro Barbosa,

I think this team will get killed on the boards, but it has nice offensive efficiency and balanced -by zone- scoring. Boards will be a killer, though.



gtak: Moses Malone, Grant Hill, Brandon Roy, Mike Bibby, Theo Ratliff,

I like it. Neither Bibby nor Ratliff really came to mind when I envisioned your 4th and 5th rounds, but it goes together in a pretty nice way. I think you could have done better than Ratliff, but you should have the $$ over to do some nice things in round 6 - so, as I said to start, I like it!




dh555: Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, Robert Parish, Emeka Okafor, Mike Miller

You did well with rounds 4 and 5. Miller is the perfect guy at the 3 for your backcourt, and Okafor is a nice big-man for when you got him. Should mesh well together.



longtallbrad: Magic Johnson, Marcus Camby, Reggie Miller, Antawn Jamison, Willis Reed

Jamison was a very, very nice pick, and Reed was a nice compiment as well. Reggie and Jamison's low tov% helps balance magic's high one. Magic's high ast% means that everyone else can be selfish (not that Reggie is). You've got good rebounding from every position except the 2, enough, in fact, that the 2 is irrelevant. Not sure about offensive boards, but you've got a ton on the other end. I like what you've done.



lhtgk: Chris Paul, Kevin Willis, David Lee, Danny Granger, Clyde Lee,

I love this. Lee was a pick that shows what happens when you wait to solidify your frontcourt till the end: a good rebounder that fouls a lot. Overall, though, dig what you got going here. I think you need more offense, but you've got a lot of good stuff with cp3 and Granger by themselves, and then Lee and Willis are nice compliments.



empdenied: Kareem A. Jabbar, Dana Barros, Donyell Marshall, Harry Gallatin, Jayson Williams,

I think you pulled one of my tricks and drafted a rotation instead of a starting five. I approve of this method. I have no idea who is going to be your shooting guard, but there are plenty of good ones out there for you in round 6.



ncih: Dennis Rodman, Mel Daniels, Penny Hardaway, Adrian Dantley, Damon Jones, 

This is hard to judge because tragedy forced a change of direction in the middle. Coley picked a good 4th and 5th rounds, but it's always tough to finish what someone else started. Jones brings some much needed 3s to this squad, and while he's not a pick in a 52-million league, he's definitely worthy of a starting spot in a 42 (especially when you have high ast% shooting guards). Could have gone for a wing that put up huge threes, but penny with the other 3 wouldn't be enough assists. I love the Dantley pick... but would have rather seen a bomber there (keeping in mind Penny was already selected). Dantley has some nice 42-mill seasons, though, so it should work out okay.



uvasooner: Shawn Marion, Wes Unseld, Terry Porter, Zelmo Beaty, Michael Williams,

uva's the man and builds good teams. It's not a team I'd run with, but uva always proves that his way of running teams works in this sim.



ashamael: Charles Barkley, Artis Gilmore, Kevin Johnson, Michael Redd, Jason Richardson,

I don't have all five of my starters drafted, so it's really hard to evaluate. As of now, though, I almost have enough threes to balance my paint dominance. Short on boards, on the high side for turnovers. I will definitely have more TOs than I typically aim for after I put it all together, but it's worked before, so I'll give her another shot.



omegax: LeBron James, Jason Kidd, Bill Laimbeer, Wesley Person, Bill Bridges,

I'm trying to figure out who else is going to be scoring on this team other than Lebron. I love Person (was gunning for him + Jamison originally to flesh out my squad), but I really think you need another higher usage guy to balance things out. You're welcome to quote this and point and laugh at me when you win the season series 6-2, though, as I'm sure karma will rip me apart.



tricky24: David Robinson, Troy Murphy, Kevin Durant, Jose Calderon, Horace Grant,

Calderon was an incredible 4th round pick up. Horace was a great 5th rounder. You've got threes, low turnovers, boards, boards and more boards. I'd like to see you get another high usage guy in round 6 to help keep admiral and durant from getting smothered... scratch that. Please don't take another high usage guy. Please? :D



jakotay: Dwight Howard, Manu Ginobili, Dirk Nowitzki, Walt Frazier, Spencer Haywood,

Man, I was with this team for a while. Frazier blew my mind. Don't like that pick at all. Totally ruins the feeling I had about your squad. Haywood works, though. It could still work, but I really can't stand Frazier in this sim in the $42-mill setting. Low assists, high turnovers, few threes... nothing I want out of a point guard (or shooting guard, or small forward). Saving grace is the rebounds, which WIS severely cut in the sept. 08 patch. But, depending on the Dirk you use and who you get in round 6 to make up for Manu's short minutes, Frazier could give you enough 3s. And Ginobili does have high ast% to help you out, too. It could work - just isn't my cup of tea (whatever that means!)


and that's all we've got that have a solid five at this time.

eleibowitz: Bill Russell, Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, Marques Johnson
scudmissle: Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Tom Boerwinkle, Michael Cage,
coachcroft: Larry Bird, Sven Nater, Chris Mullin, Don Buse, <~~~Still a racist =p
tarheel1991: Chauncey Billups, Paul Pierce, Bill Walton, Danny Ainge,
98average: Peja Stojakovic, Ray Allen, Mookie Blaylock, Bob Lanier,
captainzen: Dwayne Wade, Ben Wallace, Fat Lever, Amare Stoudamire,
garyman: Jerry Lucas, Karl Malone, Scottie Pippen, Terrell Brandon
cenquist: Tim Duncan, John Stockton, Walt Bellamy, Glen Rice,
shapandrew7: Hakeem Olajuwon, Steve Nash, Red Robbins, Clyde Drexler,
sappy: Oscar Robertson, Dikembe Mutombo, Vince Carter, Carlos Boozer,
bsmuke: Bob McAdoo, Deron Williams, Julius Erving, Chris Bosh,