Changing coach hiring Topic

MikeT23
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Three coaches, each level. Their combined ratings develop players.
5/17/2010 7:12 PM
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how much do coaches affect the players progression?

if it's minimal then get rid of the current system, if not then keep it and let us sign coaches to multiyear contracts.
5/17/2010 7:12 PM
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More complexity not less.

Treat Coaches/scouts like FA (with no seperate budgetary areas or hard preference for role/level), allow multi year contracts and let the market sort them out, if it works for FA, why not coaches/scouts?

That said if they're going to code something, fluctating budgets would be a much better improvement.
5/18/2010 7:31 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/17/2010

Sure. But, in my head, this game is trying to get players "better", and the keys seem to be hitting, pitching and fielding.

You have pitching coaches. You have hitting coaches. Thus, have fielding coaches.

You want to make it easier, get rid of bullpen coaches and the 1st and 3rd base coaches.

Or make the role of base coach a little more noticable, so that owners can see the effects of good vs. bad coaches.

"J. Numnuts drives one to the gap in -center but is thrown out easily at second base after being waved on by the first base coach".

or

"T. Dingleberry wisely held at third by the third base coach".
5/18/2010 8:06 AM
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You would hold dingleberry, wouldn't you?
5/18/2010 9:32 AM
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The more I think about it, the more I like my idea. Yep.

Crump likes it too, because he basically parrotted my brilliance.

I should be used to coattail riders.
5/18/2010 9:36 AM
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I wish they would have given the option to vastly scale back coach hiring.

Leo Mazzone, the 'coach of the decade' got $250K a year to move to Baltimore. In HBD he'd get $7 million.

Looking at data from 2007 (because it was the first thing I found on google), more than half of the MANAGERS in MLB made $600K or less.

I'd be shocked if any team paid all the coaches in their organization (excluding the MLB manager) more than $2 million a year total.

I'd much prefer a setup where we'd have all coaches for a type (pitch/hit/field/bench) in one pool, all starting at $40K in demands. Let the market decide who gets how much, without forcing us to spend at least 6 million on coaches. Then once you've hired your 7 pitching coaches (one for bullpen), you can assign them to whatever level you want.

You wouldn't be waiting for 'drop downs', or anything else. It would be straight forward, and much easier for everyone. There wouldn't be any artificial market (forced by insane demands) working either.
5/18/2010 8:26 PM
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I much prefer the option that wasn't offered...making all coaches free agents every year.
5/18/2010 9:27 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 5/18/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/17/2010

Sure. But, in my head, this game is trying to get players "better", and the keys seem to be hitting, pitching and fielding.

You have pitching coaches. You have hitting coaches. Thus, have fielding coaches.

You want to make it easier, get rid of bullpen coaches and the 1st and 3rd base coaches.

Or make the role of base coach a little more noticable, so that owners can see the effects of good vs. bad coaches.

"J. Numnuts drives one to the gap in -center but is thrown out easily at second base after being waved on by the first base coach".

or

"T. Dingleberry wisely held at third by the third base coach".

I think he would of waved in Dingleberry if he hadn't added on some pounds.
5/18/2010 9:48 PM
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I chose option 1 simply because the options I would have liked were not available to choose. I would like multi-season contracts available and have them tied to the current owner. If the owner leaves the team the coaches revert to single season as it is now. I would also like the ability to sign a coach for x dollars and assign him where I want him to be, with the ability to change assignments at the start of each season...If you need the game dumbed down, go play the standard version sim.
5/18/2010 10:50 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 5/17/2010Cox has handle some of the best pitching staff in baseball over the last 20 years while Baker seems to ruin a young arm every other weekend.


Good thing they got Aroldis Chapman then, huh?
5/19/2010 6:27 PM
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It's also insane how a coach will accept $90K to coach HiA while turning down over $600K for the same job in LoA.
5/19/2010 11:28 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 5/17/2010
If I had my way, all coaches would be sent into a pool after the next season. They would take the best offer, largely based on money with a modifier for position/level, including number of years(up to 3). And, the following season, the same thing would happen with any coach not under contract. No random re-hires. No outrageous demands. Let the world place them.

The biggest flaws I've seen with coach hiring are the inability to retain coaches and the fact that the best coaches are in the bigs when the most important coaches would be in the minors.



Solved right here.
5/20/2010 6:23 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 5/17/2010Hell, if they want to reduce the length of a HBD season, they should start with Spring Training. That is the biggest waste of 6 days known to man
That was my recommendation for changing something other than coach hiring. Either make it relevant, or eliminate it.
5/20/2010 8:26 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 5/18/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By deathinahole on 5/17/2010

Sure. But, in my head, this game is trying to get players "better", and the keys seem to be hitting, pitching and fielding.

You have pitching coaches. You have hitting coaches. Thus, have fielding coaches.

You want to make it easier, get rid of bullpen coaches and the 1st and 3rd base coaches.

Or make the role of base coach a little more noticable, so that owners can see the effects of good vs. bad coaches.

"J. Numnuts drives one to the gap in -center but is thrown out easily at second base after being waved on by the first base coach".

or

"T. Dingleberry wisely held at third by the third base coach".

I hate that I have to ask this... but tec: You are aware that 1B/3B coaches don't have any impact on in-game play, right? No more than your bullpen coach affects your RPs.

Please tell me you were just looking for a new tweak to the engine... please?
5/20/2010 8:30 AM
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