NCIH $52M XXXV Commentary and Team Composition Topic

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3/18/2012 4:56 PM
"10) logain - Dwight Howard, Elton Brand, Wes Unseld, Dana Barros, Andre Iguodala, Elgin Baylor, David Lee

Iggy/Baylor confuses an incredibly well thought out squad.  I flat don't get it (even with your explanation)."

Ha, sent you a sitemail. I had several names on my list.. Baylor was a last minute.. driving in the car.. wife posting for me decision. Mostly came down to worries about usage with Unseld and Lee in the game. Which would happen for about 12 minutes a game.. yeah anyway.. read the sitemail ash!
3/18/2012 5:13 PM
finding a usage-match backup for D-Wade is borderline ridiculous.  
3/19/2012 7:41 PM
real good one out there mike...im hoping you dont find him though....you dont need any more help haha



sup tarheel?
3/19/2012 8:20 PM
I wonder if we'll get them
3/19/2012 9:07 PM
tarheel....where are you
3/19/2012 10:13 PM
Defacto evals - to curb our ravenous appetites

1) sixernuggets (1) - Wilt Chamberlain, Dirk Nowitzki, Brent Barry, Mark Jackson, Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, Caldwell Jones
poor sixer forgot to draft a 3rd board man to support jones and wilt, which is a common mistake among owners. wilt is great, but he's not super great (no one is). on the other hand, this team can light up a scoreboard since there are 2 highly capable dishmen in jackson and nixon. even barry gives up the rock enough. of course, so much depends on what wilt version sixer is using. i'm pretty sure the 30% usage version of dirk would be used (why would u use any other version?). i like the wilkes choice in the 5th. he brings def, some boards, and occasionally, some 3's. again, what version will you be using? jones plays def but fouls a bunch. his board %'s are not too bad. this team lacks high definition, meaning, there aren't the correct role players surrounding wilt. you'll hit from the outside, but when wilt or dirk have off nights, and they will, there's no one else. little depth.questionable boards. wilkes at the 3 and barry at the 2 i assume. moderately weak. grade - C 

2) jethroeg - Moses Malone, Kevin McHale, Maurice Cheeks, Gus Johnson, Fat Lever, Brian Taylor, Stromile Swift
moses and mchale. wow! hoping to see jethroe make a move for a nater, or boerwinkle, or some other high dreb% guy in the 3rd, but j-man drafts mo cheeks? ok, i can understand drafting a pg in the 3rd, the top tier pg's are quickly evaporating, but cheeks. his efg% is off the charts, and he steals the ball, but his ast% is low, even if the stats show 9.1ppg, and of course, he doesn't make 3's or shoot fta's. 90 def is nice. but then, gus johnson? a fouling machine and low efg%. this is a 52 mil league. gus will be going up against hawks and sharks each game. yeah, he boards, and plays def, but so do soooo many others in this league. i love brian taylor! he is always overlooked in the draft leagues. great %'s and def (both 80 versions at least). i don't even want to talk about fat lever or stromile swift. i would start the 5.7 mil version of taylor, and draft the 4 mil version of cheeks where he makes 65-3's. that would give you 65+75 = 140 3's from the no. 1 slot. i would find a lesser version of fat, and draft a 3 mil scrub with better efg at the no.2. i think you will have enough boards with your big men so a fat reduction can be had. Grade - C- 

3) jakotay - Michael Jordan, Swen Nater, Tyson Chandler, Grant Hill, Chris Mullin ---- -----
hard to evaluate a partial team, but the first three picks were almost genius. low usage, high dreb big men to get the ball back into mj's hands... but wait, also into mullin's and hill's hands too. one, but not both as 2nd scorers. jordan needs a scoring teammate to make better. still, there are ways to make this starting 5 work, and having mj, nater and tyson is a formidable trio. b ut wait, i do not see a true point guard on this team, unless coley plans on using mj there, and there is only 1 version of mj that playes pg (8 board, 8 dime version, right?) that's hurting mj. he needs to be dished too, not do the dishing. ah, grant hill... well, 20 ast% is not enough for the likes of mj. i don't see this squad doing much. Grade - C

4) sixernuggets (2) - Bill Russell, Steve Nash, Wesley Person, Alex English, Dan Issel, Michael Adams, TR Dunn
sixers 2nd team. russell first in a 52 mil league? really? then nash 2nd? then wesley person 3rd? you must have had 51 mil left after those first 3 selections. then alex english? didn't you build a team similar to this one before, sixer? what is your love affair with english? then dan issel? another head scratcher. sixer, in a 52 mil league, you get an extra 10 mil to speand, which means, you either find partial seasons that are intensely insane (like the 2200 min version of vinsanity), or you go for balance, which means you try to include def, efg%, dreb%, t.o.'s, ft% etc. anything to gain an extra possession or two with your picks. issel and english do not cut the mustard. Michael Adams is such a ho-hum back-up to nash. you should be trying to recreate the starters numbers when choosing a back. has adams ever made a three before? and though i like tr dunn, he does not ian any shape or form, imitate person's game. by the way, who's gonna help russell board? issel? english? Grade - D (sorry, man)  

5) katernberg - LeBron James, Gerald Wallace, Mel Daniels, Charles Oakley, Charlie Ward, Eddie Jones, Martin Gortat
good god do i love the guards on this team. i almost drafted eddie jones. love that 16.9 ppg version (143-3's), and i lopve charlie ward and of course, gerald wallace. whether these guys back up lebron, or play alongside him, they will all evevate lebron's game (which in itself is frightening as hell), and guess what, mell daniels becomes a very potent no 2. scorer on this squad who boards like a fiend. oakley does not get pushed around in 52 million leagues, and he has a 28% dreb to go along with a 70 def rating. this is a strong club. i love marcin gortat's 1.6 mil season. high board % and a 69 def. other than daniels, this is a nice def team with scoring punch, lots of dimes, boards, 3's, fta's and steals. i don't know about you guys, but i don't see a weakness here. Grade A- 

6) banditone - David Robinson, Clyde Drexler, Larry Nance, Chris Webber, Toni Kukoc, Paul Westphal, Archie Clark
i have a love-hate relationship with this team. robinson at no. 6 is perfect. imo, other than wilt, drob is the perfect 52 mil league center. great %'s, def, ft%, blks, steals, fta's and def. amazing player. tremendous value for 10 mil. and if you want to go with that intense season (2400 mins), it is unparalled. then bandi drafts drexler (which i think he should always go in the 2nd round, but rarely does) who is a very nice sg with his boards and dimes and 3's. in this league, he is more valuable than mcgrady, pierce, and vinsanity. nance is lovely at sf. wow, such a great 3-man start! what? who? webber? good god, NOOO! he will be poison to drob and clyde. get rid of him! love kukoc. 3's, dimes, some boards, good, all around back-up to someone. westphal is a perfect pg with scoring punch and def (73 def). gives this team 3 legit scorers (if u forget webber). archie clark is a bag of dirt and should be sprinkled in a dog park. this team has a solid core with drob, drex, nance, and westphal and a good back-up. it's not too late to right the ship. Grade - B
 
7) bluenote75 - Dennis Rodman, Paul Pierce, Amare Stoudamire, Joel Pryzbilla, Derek Harper, Jamaal Tinsley, Andris Biedrins
this is one of those teams that is hard to put a handle on (i do not like "the truth" in a 52 mil league). pierce and amare team up from the outside and the inside for solid scoring. the worm and pryz, and underrated biedrins could perhaps provide enough boards (%-wise, yes, but total boards- no!). derek harper is a great odl player, but a so-so player in the 52 mil group. i like tinsley alot, but he'll be a backup. maybe get more tinsley into the line-up and less harper. but any reduced season for harper, and the guy turns into a brick layer at the free throw line. i have to go back to pierce. wish blue had drafted a more efficient scorer than pierce. this team would be quite good and balanced. as it is, it's gonna struggle to make the playoffs. it will be a no. 12 seed. Grade B-

8) xxevilivexx (1) - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Donyell Marshall, Mookie Blaylock, Kirk Hinrich, Sidney Moncrief, Detlef Schrempf, Jon Koncak
the "experiment", i assume, does not applie to this squad. it can't because i don't see anything startling or shocking (like eaton and bol down low). however, drafting moncrief (which i love) will not offset the defiency in rebounds on this squad. i think marshall underperforms a lot in a 52 mil league and won't achieve his rl board numbers, though he will make more than his 130-3's, hinrich and mookie both shoot so many 3's, combined with marhsall and detlef, this is a +3 perimeter setting on your def settings, however, there is jabbar, so you can't set the def to that setting. koncak was an interesting choice to play alongside jabbar. low usage, and has some decent board numbers. is it enough? i would think evil would have been better off finding a huge oreb guy to gather in all those 3-pt bricks mookie and hinrich shoot. but the dimes are good, the usage is balanced and the def is strong. i am still worried about boards. depends on how koncak plays. i will give him the benefit of the doubt. Grade - B+

9) sappy - Charles Barkley, Ray Allen, Buck Williams, Andrei Kirilenko, Kevin Johnson, Clifford Ray, Alonzo Mourning
i'm confused a little here. barkley, allen, buck and ray make perfect sense to me, especially if you are drafting guys with low defense, because their efficiency is off the charts. nice. but then you draft KJ, who is neither a stalwart in efficiency, nor plays any def. he dimes up, and one version he can shoot 89-3's, but he doesn't fit the symmetry you created with the other 4 (love clifford ray's 54% fg season). was kirilenko an attempt at drafting some def? perhaps that one season of his where he shoots 50% and 36% from the arc would help, but i don't see AK47 really helping this squad. ya gotta play alonzo at pf and back up barkley because his %'s imitate barkley's a little. but sir charles should have been saved for the no.3 slot, but AK47 took that away from him. like i said, i am a bit confused her. Grade - C+

10) logain - Dwight Howard, Elton Brand, Wes Unseld, Dana Barros, Andre Iguodala, Elgin Baylor, David Lee
11) tricky24 - Shaquile O'Neal, Kevin Love, Cedric Maxwell, Michael Ray Richardson, Reggie Miller, Baron Davis, Taj Gibson
12) mikee1 - Dwayne Wade, Marcus Camby, Horace Grant, Bob McAdoo, Chris Anderson, Dan Majerle, Renaldo Balkman
13) captainzen - Chris Paul, Shawn Kemp, Tracy McGrady, Troy Murphy, Lamar Odom, Roy Tarpley, Mike Biby
14) 98average (1) - Jason Kidd, Manu Ginobili, Willis Reed, Tree Rollins, Rudy Tomjanovich, Patrick Ewing, Antonio McDyess
15) ashamael - Magic Johnson, Kevin Durant, Marques Johnson, Kris Humphries, Joakim Noah, Rodrique Beaubois, Dan Gadzuric
16) vancem - Karl Malone, Shawn Marion, Tom Boerwinkle, Jerry West, Emeka Okafor, Jameer Nelson, Nick Anderson
17) scudmissle - Ben Wallace, Bill Walton, Anfernee Hardaway, Vince Carter, Carlos Boozer, Danny Granger, Connie Hawkins
18) 98average (2) - Artis Gilmore, Tim Duncan, Bill Bridges, Mark Price, Robert Horry, Terrell Brandon, Scott Burrell
19) ncih - Kevin Garnett, Jerry Lucas, Bob Lanier, Terry Porter, Stephan Curry, Steve Kerr, Andrew Bynum
20) malone9975 - Kobe Bryant, Dikembe Mutombo, Deron Williams, Josh Smith, AC Green, Walter Berry, Mark Landsberger
21) dh555 - Larry Bird, John Stockton, Robert Parish, Pau Gasol, Dale Davis, Michael Redd, Cedric Ceballos
22) tarheel1991 - Julius Erving, Scottie Pippen, Anthony Mason, Red Robbins, Ryan Anderson, Jon Barry, Mike Miller
23) xxevilivexx (2) - Hakeem Olajuwon, Chauncey Billups, Bobby Jones, Walt Frazier. Charlie Edge, Manute Bol, Mark Eaton
24) chris_snid - Gary Payton, Oscar Robertson, Kevin Willis, Samuel Dalembert, Elden Campbell, Gheorghe Muresan, Kyle Lowry
3/20/2012 2:22 AM
oh crap...did I win this last year? I completely forgot. Evals coming guys, sorry
3/20/2012 10:46 AM
i feel like no one ever uses the 66-67 wilt in draft leagues....makes no sense...the best sim season available and no one wants to use it.....the wilt/dirk combo should have won multiple titles....05-06 dirk is a totally legit #1....can easily average up to 30ppg on 50/40/90 %s and kills it from the line...he also will make enough 3s for your entire front court....this means you need to do nothing else with your sf and backup pf besides draft defense and rebounding....any more scoring from those spots is a bonus...ho grant, bobby jones, nance etc....all those guys are always there at the top of the 3rd to pair with wilt/dirk...now you can have dirk guard the other teams worst forward....with all the dimes you get from wilt(dirk passes too, so does grant) you dont have to draft a true pg....you could load up on 3s and dare teams to go +3 on you and then laugh when wilt drops 30 on 15/17 shooting


3/20/2012 12:23 PM
read your incoming SM, dh.
3/20/2012 12:50 PM
Posted by tarheel1991 on 3/20/2012 10:46:00 AM (view original):
oh crap...did I win this last year? I completely forgot. Evals coming guys, sorry
whew!
3/20/2012 2:22 PM
You don't see a weakness and still give me a A- ??
3/20/2012 2:40 PM
1) sixernuggets (1) - Wilt Chamberlain, Dirk Nowitzki, Brent Barry, Mark Jackson, Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon, Caldwell Jones

Like the first three picks, not really the ones after that. Not really sure what seasons you're using of everyone, so it's kinda tough to judge, but the last four picks don't seem to fit at all. Jackson has the huge assists, but IMO doesn't bring enough total package to the table. You're vulnerable on defense in the backcourt, with no one over 60, but at least you don't have any huge weak spots. You seem really board-light to me, needed a high-board SF and Wilkes doesn't fit the bill. No clue what Jones season you're using but he isn't a great board guy either. Wilkes and Nixon both are just kinda blah to me - nothing that wrong with them, they're just very average. And neither brings any threes, which you could use more of. No playoffs here.

2) jethroeg - Moses Malone, Kevin McHale, Maurice Cheeks, Gus Johnson, Fat Lever, Brian Taylor, Stromile Swift

Well, this team can play D. Maybe OK on the boards. But that's about it. No threes, and Johnson and Lever kill your efficiency. Honestly it's hard to imagine a worse final four picks considering what you had. Moses/McHale is fine to start with, Cheeks could have been OK with the right SG and SF, but you just bombed the last four picks. You'll probably frustrate the people who want to average 125 a game (like me!) with 102-98 games, some of which you'll probably win, but this team won't see the playoffs.

3) jakotay - Michael Jordan, Swen Nater, Tyson Chandler, Grant Hill, Chris Mullin, Rashad McCants, Andrew Bogut

I have no clue why you picked Grant Hill. I actually think Grant Hill could be pretty good on a certain team (might try that out in the next ODL or in this league), but he is a very confusing choice to pair with Jordan. Unless you're using one of the late 90s Jordans it makes it pretty tough for you to have enough threes, and he'll take away scoring chances from Jordan. I actually like the rest of the team. You've got a good amount of D, assuming you use the versions I think you will, and this should be a great rebounding team. Mullin and McCants at least bring some threes. But I think the misfit of Hill will keep this team from greatness. Probably should finish around .500, maybe playoffs.

4) sixernuggets (2) - Bill Russell, Steve Nash, Wesley Person, Alex English, Dan Issel, Michael Adams, TR Dunn

TR! I instinctively love TR, he's my secret weapon. But he's more a 47 mil guy than a 52 mil, and I'm not sure if he fits here. You have a lot of pretty low usage guys, and when Issel or English is out I'm pretty sure you'll be taking a possession penalty. There aren't enough threes here, either, and you seem pretty light on the boards - Nash and Adams are both really weak, Issel is pretty low for a post, and I don't think English and Dunn can make up the difference. This just doesn't seem to fit very well to me, and it's no secret that English consistently underperforms. Maybe you've found a way to build around him, but I don't think so. No playoffs.

5) katernberg - LeBron James, Gerald Wallace, Mel Daniels, Charles Oakley, Charlie Ward, Eddie Jones, Martin Gortat

That is one impressive backcourt - you get a ton of boards and D from Lebron and Wallace, and threes from Lebron and Jones. Add in solid frontcourt boards and D, and you've got something going here, I think. Efficiency isn't great for a 52 mil, but still pretty good. Assists might be a little light too, especially since half of them come from your top scorer, but that might change if you're using one of the higher-minute Wards. So maybe sometimes you'll struggle a little bit to score, but considering the very good D and and boards it shouldn't be much of an issue. Definitely seems to be a playoff team, should at least get to the 2nd round, maybe even a contender

6) banditone - David Robinson, Clyde Drexler, Larry Nance, Chris Webber, Toni Kukoc, Paul Westphal, Archie Clark

Does this team have enough boards? I guess it depends on which Drexler you use. If you use the higher-board Drexler, you have basically no threes. If you use a later Drexler with better efg% and more threes, you're probably board-light, even with Nance at the 3, because Robinson and Webber aren't that great (and it looks like Nance is your backup post player, too). Robinson should do his thing, but the PGs aren't anything special. Maybe this team doesn't have a glaring weakness, but it just seems a little weak overall to me. Probably no playoffs, could sneak in.

7) bluenote75 - Dennis Rodman, Paul Pierce, Amare Stoudamire, Joel Pryzbilla, Derek Harper, Jamaal Tinsley, Andris Biedrins

The Rodman/Amare combo is nice; seems almost natural. Pierce, I'm not a huge fan of in a 52 mil, because there are better efficiency guys out there, but he should be OK. Przybilla brings some nice boards, Harper is a solid fit for this group, Tinsley and Biedrins are fine. Is there enough scoring punch here, though? I think you'll be in the penalty when Amare or Pierce is out, and Amare doesn't play all that many minutes. Maybe you can add a couple bench options to help that. This team should do well on the boards, defense looks good, but I really worry if there's enough usage to back up the top two guys. Also not a ton of threes here. Despite the good D and rebounding I'm a little worried about this team, thinking it's probably .500 or so.

8) xxevilivexx (1) - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Donyell Marshall, Mookie Blaylock, Kirk Hinrich, Sidney Moncrief, Detlef Schrempf, Jon Koncak

I like the first three picks OK, but not so much after that. Kirk Hinrich? Really? In the 4th round? There had to be better options there. Moncrief is solid, but overall the last four picks confused me. Holy crap, do you seem light on the boards. It looks like Donyell and the 4 and Moncrief at the 3, when they should be at the 3 and 2 (you say they're at the 2 and 3 on the other page, but then who is starting at the 4? ) Schrempf is a solid backup, Koncak is underwhelming. If you took out Hinrich and replaced him with a good PF, maybe there's something here. But as you have it now...I don't like it much. Should be decently efficient, defense is good, but the boards thing is a big problem.

9) sappy - Charles Barkley, Ray Allen, Buck Williams, Andrei Kirilenko, Kevin Johnson, Clifford Ray, Alonzo Mourning

What an offensive start. Two efficiency and usage monsters. Buck was a nice complement, too, with his low usage, efficiency, boards and D. Ray is also a good choice. Not a huge fan of Kirilenko, but he certainly will help cover for Allen and Barkley on D. Mourning should be good if you use the season I think you should. I think this looks solid overall, although you might have some backcourt defense issues - the Jordans, etc of the league might light you up to a certain extent, especially if they're paired with another solid backcourt option. Fouls might be a little high, but that's a minor issue. This looks like a playoff team to me, not sure how far it will go.

10) logain - Dwight Howard, Elton Brand, Wes Unseld, Dana Barros, Andre Iguodala, Elgin Baylor, David Lee

Wow, what a frontcourt. D, rebounding, scoring from Dwight. The question is, can it make up for a weak-ish backcourt? Barros is an efficiency monster, but he can't defend and Iggy isn't much better, depending on what season you use. Baylor is a good backup if you use the right season, which I'm pretty sure you will. If you can avoid getting lit up repeatedly by opposing guards, the frontcourt should carry you, but you have basically no threes besides Barros. This looks like a 40-45-win team, possibly playoffs, but the wrong matchup means you go out early.

11) tricky24 - Shaquile O'Neal, Kevin Love, Cedric Maxwell, Michael Ray Richardson, Reggie Miller, Baron Davis, Taj Gibson

Not a big fan of this team. The first three and Reggie bring great efficiency, but the Michael Ray/Baron partnership hurts it a lot. There's only one Baron Davis season I'd want anywhere near this team, and it's fewer than 400 minutes. Michael Ray will get in the way more than he will help. Gibson has a high-D season, but it's not good rebounding or scoring. This team is about as weak rebounding as is possible with Cornbread at the 3 and Love at the 5, too. Defense is also a significant concern - since Shaq isn't flexible, opposing PFs are going to tear Love to shreds. I see no real areas of dominance here, thanks to a few efficiency killers, and some real areas of concern. No playoffs.

12) mikee1 - Dwayne Wade, Marcus Camby, Horace Grant, Bob McAdoo, Chris Anderson, Dan Majerle, Renaldo Balkman

Wade is better in a $47 mil league, but he'll work here too. I really like the work you did on the frontcourt after picking him as well - McAdoo is a great second fiddle to Wade, and the rest bring the D and the boards without many negatives. Did you go a little too low usage after Wade and McAdoo, though? I like Balkman, and Majerle, but they don't shoot much, and Camby and Andersen certainly don't. You mentioned having trouble finding a usage match backup for Wade - I imagine that'll be tough, yeah. Considering he isn't the most efficient guy to begin with, you can't afford the penalty. And are there enough assists with Wade and Majerle? Could have some issues there, too. If you come out on the right side of the usage line this is a winner, but I'm not sure. Relatively low assists and a possible usage penalty will have to be dodged to make this a great team. I'll split the difference and say this team sneaks into the playoffs, but I could see you having a great squad too if my numbers are a little off.

3/21/2012 5:13 PM (edited)
this is all?
3/21/2012 4:14 PM
patience grasshopper...I have an actual life to live as well.
3/21/2012 4:35 PM
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