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Posted by bad_luck on 10/29/2018 9:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/29/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/29/2018 8:39:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 10/29/2018 8:34:00 PM (view original):
If the report is true, I will give you that. Outside of the justice system, I do not see another area where all races do not have equal opportunity.
Blacks also do significantly worse than whites in every aspect of the education system.

This doesn't prove an unfair system.
Unless you believe that blacks, as a whole, are dumber than whites, it does.
Are blacks as a whole better at basketball and football than whites? No. Stats can be misleading.
10/29/2018 9:38 PM
The why doesn’t really matter. If blacks do worse because they lack generational wealth or because their parents aren’t as educated, it’s still a problem that the system isn’t accounting for when, for example, people apply for college.
10/29/2018 9:39 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/29/2018 9:39:00 PM (view original):
The why doesn’t really matter. If blacks do worse because they lack generational wealth or because their parents aren’t as educated, it’s still a problem that the system isn’t accounting for when, for example, people apply for college.
You are so freaking stupid. Blacks as a whole do not. Some blacks do. Each situation is different and must be studied on its own merits. My goodness you are a Leftist dumbass. Tell the people in that synagogue how they were not disadvantaged. You truly are an obtuse fool.
10/29/2018 9:44 PM
Bad luck is too stupid to realize that while not all Americans are born with equal opportunities all are born with equal rights.
10/29/2018 9:45 PM
The system most certainly accounts for it. I can't speak for state institutions as I do not know, but private schools are most certainly willing to let a black kid in with lower scores.

I am now coaching the smartest travel baseball team in the country, the East Cobb Patriots (that may be too much info, but oh well.) Our average ACT is a 31 and average SAT is 1320. We have former players currently on every ivy league roster and a kid at Cal Tech. We had a black kid this summer that made an 1180 SAT. This is far from good enough for top 25 schools, but yet almost every one said that they could get him. I was talking to a recruiting coordinator and an academically elite power 5 school. We were discussing the academic side of recruiting and he looks at me and says "Coach, you have it all wrong. We don't go after premier grades kids. We go to inner cities and sign those kids because it is easier for us to get them into school."

To make a long story short, schools most certainly account for the fact that black kids, for whatever reason, score lower on a whole.
10/29/2018 9:46 PM
Interesting but frustrating story that has nothing to do with the current conversation. We have players from 10 states and 3 different countries. One of our Japanese kids wanted to go to Johns Hopkins. The coach wanted the kid as well. He has only been speaking English for 3 years and only learned it because he wanted to go to school in the States. He made an 800 on the math portion and a 650 on the verbal and was denied. It looks like he is going to have to settle for Wooster Poly.

Another story that I found funny is the younger brother of the kid who is at Cal Tech plays for us. He made a 1550 on his SAT. I asked his mom if he was going to go to Cal Tech with his brother and she looks at me and says "He can't get in." It absolutely blew my mind. I assumed a 1550 would get him into almost anywhere.
10/29/2018 9:52 PM
Collin Powell’s kids have an advantage over mine. Looking at skin color only is dumb. Like bad luck.
10/29/2018 9:53 PM
CCCP takes one step forward, 2 back.
10/29/2018 11:21 PM
Tangplay posts the same thing twice
10/29/2018 11:26 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/29/2018 9:53:00 PM (view original):
Collin Powell’s kids have an advantage over mine. Looking at skin color only is dumb. Like bad luck.
forget about Colin Powell's kids or LeBron James' kids. Donald Trump's kids have an advantage over your kids too. That has nothing to do with race, but very much to do with finances. Does the average black American's kids have an advantage over your kids? I doubt it.
10/30/2018 8:00 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2018 8:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/29/2018 9:53:00 PM (view original):
Collin Powell’s kids have an advantage over mine. Looking at skin color only is dumb. Like bad luck.
forget about Colin Powell's kids or LeBron James' kids. Donald Trump's kids have an advantage over your kids too. That has nothing to do with race, but very much to do with finances. Does the average black American's kids have an advantage over your kids? I doubt it.
Does the average black American kid have an advantage over the kids in Mexico? How about Nicaragua or Honduras? How about the Philippines or Sri Lanka? Then there's Africa. North Africa. South Africa. West Africa. Central Africa. East Africa. There's no room in India or Pakistan.

If you people would stop ******** and start working with the rest of us we would make things better for all of us.

Stop ********. Start pitching.
10/30/2018 8:22 PM
"Stop ********, start pitching"

This is going to become my new slogan for when my pitchers are getting shelled.
10/30/2018 8:35 PM
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