Staind and Stevey, each person will have the ability to post a question to each of you. Please quote them and respond. Good luck.

staindman: You had a clear path to the final four and at that point immunity would have played the biggest role in determining the final two. Given that, it seems you stabbed me in the back just to be an ***, rather than to accomplish anything strategic. My question is, having admittedly told a series of lies to virtually everyone in the second half of the game (I believe you and I determined the count was at least four outright fibs), why would anyone believe a word you type in future versions of the game?

steveymer: To me, one of the best aspects of the game was trying to mislead and misdirect other players without actually being untruthful. Does playing to win justify telling flat-out lies?

Let me just say this game was great fun wish I was around longer kudos to you Knee looking forward to season 2

Stevey we didn't talk at all during the game but congrats for getting to the final ..question are you sure it was wise to bring Staind to the final 2 As it appears to me he actually played the best game Why do you deserve to win more than him ?

Staind It appeared to me we had an understanding I know nothing was set in stone. Why did it appear necessary for you to help orchestrate my departure You knew I had an idol which combined with yours would have made us a formidable team ? Answer carefully

Quote: Originally posted by joshkvt on 2/11/2010steveymer: To me, one of the best aspects of the game was trying to mislead and misdirect other players without actually being untruthful. Does playing to win justify telling flat-out lies?

In my mind it doesn't. There are times when the end can justify using lying as the means, but winning this little game isn't one of those times. Of course, others take a different approach, I think motivated in at least some cases by the fact that lies are a part of the real Survivor (I guess? never really watched it). I'm not sure of the morality of lying there either, but I take it they get a lot of money for winning, which is a more substantial end ... we don't get anything for winning, right?

That said, I was willing to mislead people, or at least not correct their mistaken beliefs. And it might be argued there's really no difference between that and lying, but it does at least feel different. I'd feel bad if I broke one of the few promises I made in the game; I didn't feel bad in not correcting false beliefs ... I felt clever.

Quote: Originally posted by foolish1 on 2/11/2010 Let me just say this game was great fun wish I was around longer kudos to you Knee looking forward to season 2

Stevey we didn't talk at all during the game but congrats for getting to the final ..question are you sure it was wise to bring Staind to the final 2 As it appears to me he actually played the best game Why do you deserve to win more than him ?

First of all, I second the kudos to knee. I had no idea this would be so enjoyable, and free for all of us, while costing him a good deal of time -- much thanks!

As for your questions, only time will tell if the choice was wise. I thought it was the way to go since staind had apparently ruffled some feathers. As for deserving to win, I think I've got a good case. I'm not sure of the final records, but I'm sure I won more games than I lost and also won immunity 3 of the final 4 rounds (I think), which was huge (is the only reason I'm here). Plus, the game here isn't just the games "on the field." It's also dealing with people and I feel like I did that well. Flew under the radar for most of the way, but didn't break any alliances or tell any outright lies to people, so hopefully that means I didn't create enemies and did ok with the interpersonal aspect of the game.

Staind: Now that we know you are a POS liar when the chips are down...i don't have a question as we know now you obviously have zero brain cells in your head since you had a VERY good chance of winning against me or josh while holding an idol. Great job getting to the finals and losing while alienating all of your FORMER friends and allies...idiot!



Stevy: What are you going to do when u win? Drew Brees went to Disney world!

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Quote: Originally posted by foolish1 on 2/11/2010 Let me just say this game was great fun wish I was around longer kudos to you Knee looking forward to season 2
Staind It appeared to me we had an understanding I know nothing was set in stone. Why did it appear necessary for you to help orchestrate my departure You knew I had an idol which combined with yours would have made us a formidable team ? Answer carefully

Foolish, its precisely because you had the idol. and until i decided to get josh out on a whim. my final four group of sox, josh, stevey and me needed your idol out of the play before final 5 or 6.. I wanted to have the only idol. It was a move to get the idol out and change the balance of power

Quote: Originally posted by soxyanks12 on 2/11/2010Staind: Now that we know you are a POS liar when the chips are down...i don't have a question as we know now you obviously have zero brain cells in your head since you had a VERY good chance of winning against me or josh while holding an idol. Great job getting to the finals and losing while alienating all of your FORMER friends and allies...idiot! Stevy: What are you going to do when u win?  Drew Brees went to Disney world!

Sox, I will use your rant against me to say, I played survivor the way it was meant to be played. Its outwit, outplay, outlast. I did all of those three things. How many of you saw foolish going home so early or josh? How many of you though sz and delta made it as far as they did? Because of my plays, i kept the game interesting, fun, and game changing. I deserve to get some votes for at least playing the game the way its supposed to be played.

Quote: Originally posted by joshkvt on 2/11/2010staindman: ... My question is ... why would anyone believe a word you type in future versions of the game?

You gave a nice response, but did not answer my question.

No questions from me, but let me say this game was the most fun I've had on WIS in years.

Stevey, you played a great game and I respect how you got there. Honesty should be rewarded! You had the hardest road to the finals.

Staind, well..I got nothing nice to say!

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Quote: Originally posted by btown on 2/11/2010No questions from me, but let me say this game was the most fun I've had on WIS in years.   Stevey, you played a great game and I respect how you got there. Honesty should be rewarded! You had the hardest road to the finals.   Staind, well..I got nothing nice to say!

Btown just remember stevey, sz, and me all voted for you not just me. And i did not coordinate with any of them to vote for you. I mentioned my vote to stevey and sz did not respond to my requests to chat. So yes my past sins did not help me with your vote, but you never were specifically targetd

okay...

staind...of all the people who played this game I believe you played it the hardest and with the most strategy. People who complain about the misleading (or lying) you did to get were you are maybe really shouldnt play this game. Those people are also guilty as well (see my remarks below) After all this is a game and not real life. This is not even real sim-life for that matter. How could playing THIS game ruin friendships? Regardless, you did not ride anybody's coat tails. You played both sides like I was trying to, only at a different level. I do however resent your comment about me making it so far especially when it was I who saved you after the very first merger. I feel I got as far as I did by my own doing. What I want to know is, why did you put your vote against me and not stevey when we were at the final 4? If you wanted your best shot to win why would it make sense to take somebody with 2 or 3 strong allies on the jury with you?

stevey, as josh stated in his question to staind, you, josh, soxy, and staind had an alliance. Why was it that every time I asked one of you, josh, or soxy the answer was that you guys did not have an alliance? (Not a question...a statement. The answer I got nearly every time was you guys were just agreeing to vote a certain way. What a load of crap. and you all give staind a hard time for lying. Okay now for my question...other than winning the final challenge, what did you do to deserve being in the final 2? ...and I dont want to hear anything about your record in games because staind owned you in that department. If winning the most games is what it goes by then I am probably the most deserving as I believe I had the best record of everybody in challenges.

and dont be ****** at me...these statements/questions are only in the spirit of this Survivor game.