Quote: Originally posted by deltagorfers on 2/12/2010okay...staind...of all the people who played this game I believe you played it the hardest and with the most strategy.  People who complain about the misleading (or lying) you did to get were you are maybe really shouldnt play this game.  Those people are also guilty as well (see my remarks below) After all this is a game and not real life.  This is not even real sim-life for that matter.  How could playing THIS game ruin friendships?  Regardless, you did not ride anybody's coat tails.  You played both sides like I was trying to, only at a different level.  I do however resent your comment about me making it so far especially when it was I who saved you after the very first merger.  I feel I got as far as I did by my own doing.  What I want to know is, why did you put your vote against me and not stevey when we were at the final 4?  If you wanted your best shot to win why would it make sense to take somebody with 2 or 3 strong allies on the jury with you?

Delta, i voted against you because i knew putting you on the jury might give me a chance of at least one vote for me maybe in the end. and also because stevey gave me the idol back that i had given him in the final 5 to save my *** in case i needed it. it was a thank you vote..i also felt that standing next to you in the final 2 did me no good either. i was hoping it would be me and sz in the final 2. but alas. i dont remember saying you were weaker than me and i didnt realize you saved my *** in the first vote post merge. i thought i was safe that week regardless. so i guess thank you.

Wow..I was courted for the next version. I can honestly say that I have never watched Survivor even once. Everything I know about the show was through Joel McHale! But now after reading these rants I am glad to be involved in the next version. staind you are a gutless coward!!!! gutless coward!!!! gutless coward!!!!

Quote: Originally posted by deltagorfers on 2/12/2010
stevey, as josh stated in his question to staind, you, josh, soxy, and staind had an alliance.  Why was it that every time I asked one of you, josh, or soxy the answer was that you guys did not have an alliance? (Not a question...a statement. The answer I got nearly every time was you guys were just agreeing to vote a certain way.  What a load of crap.  and you all give staind a hard time for lying.  Okay now for my question...other than winning the final challenge, what did you do to deserve being in the final 2?  ...and I dont want to hear anything about your record in games because staind owned you in that department.  If winning the most games is what it goes by then I am probably the most deserving as I believe I had the best record of everybody in challenges. 

First of all, I don't believe I ever lied about being an alliance. I don't believe I ever said anything directly about it; before the alliance was blown up the most I communicated to you was vote information (like "I think there will be X votes for player Y"). We talked more after the alliance was gone and I definitely let you believe something false about who I'd vote for one time, but I didn't ever lie and I had every intention of fulfilling my one promise to you if I had gotten the chance (and appreciate you holding your end up on that one).

As for desert, I'd be curious to see the overall records, but I'm confident that staind did not "own" me there, assuming "own" means dominated.
He may have had 1 or 2 more wins, but I certainly won more than I lost plus A) I won more games in crunch time (3 of the last 4 immunities is huge, IMO), B) think I did quite well as a captain for several rounds, spending a lot of time to find good teams, so helped a few people out there, and C) I think I handled dealing with fellow players and potential voters better, which is also a part of the game ... but only time will tell on that I suppose.

challenge staind steve
1: 2 tribes W, 2-1 L, 6-7
2: 2 tribes L, 9-11 L, 0-1
3: 2 tribes W, 4-2 W, 8-2, Captain: Tribe Wins
4: 2 tribes (exile island) W, 7-4, Captain: Tribe Wins
5: 3 tribes W, 1-0 W, 3-1, Captain: Tribe Wins
6: 2 tribes W, 12-1 L, 4-3
7: individual W, 2-0 W, 4-3
8: individual W, 6-2 W, 11-1
9: individual W, 5-3 W, 15-1, Win Immunity
10: individual W, 8-0 W, 8-4, Win Immunity
11: individual L, 10-2 L, 5-9
12: individual L, 0-6 W 6-0 and W, 12-1, Win Immunity

Overall:
Staind: 8-3, 0-0 as captain, 0 immunities won
Steve: 9-4, 3-0 as captain, 3 immunities won

(and only one loss when I was responsible for choosing my team ... and 3 of the 4 losses by one frickin' run!)

I'm inclined to think the captain victories and immunities won down the stretch more than make up for the 1 game difference in records, but of course I might be biased.

Quote: Originally Posted By staindman on 2/11/2010

Quote: Originally posted by btown on 2/11/2010
No questions from me, but let me say this game was the most fun I've had on WIS in years.

Stevey, you played a great game and I respect how you got there. Honesty should be rewarded! You had the hardest road to the finals.

Staind, well..I got nothing nice to say!

Btown just remember stevey, sz, and me all voted for you not just me. And i did not coordinate with any of them to vote for you. I mentioned my vote to stevey and sz did not respond to my requests to chat. So yes my past sins did not help me with your vote, but you never were specifically targetd

Never said I was targeted. It was my time to go. I even told knee when I sent my vote in that I was gone. Sz and stevey where never disonest, I knew they where voting for me. You on the other hand, even though I expected it, messaged me with stupid suggestions and the "You trust me " quote. During that vote I voted for you knowing you had an idol and my vote wouldn't count. I would rather lose honestly than win being a piece of ****.

lmao...once again knee i want to thank u for being a part of this awsome league...and if i havent said this b4 ...great job as host! watched my boy boston rob last night on the new season and cant wait for next week!

sadly it doesnt look like Boston Rob will fair well next week...

Still waiting on a few votes, and questions

I'm not submitting my vote until after all the questions have been asked and answered...that's how it should be IMO

Thats why I said votes, and questions

questions



staindman
Why should I vote for you?

steveymer
Why should I vote for you?

Sz- Why should you vote for me?

I think because i played this game to win. Some might argue the moves I made didnt help me win. But at the time they were the best moves. Getting foolish's idol out helped alot of people out. As I said, Josh was considered the biggest threat by me. I play him tough but he usually beats me. Plus that trio of people stood in my way of actually winning and still do. I played the game to play the game and i didnt do anything personally or attacked anyone personally. I did it to get ahead. Some call me full of ****, some say i lied. Sure but hell I made the game fun and different. Otherwise it was just a cakewalk to the final four for the three and me. I helped people like you stay in the game sz. And as much as btown called me full of ****., he would have been gone alot earlier than what happened.

Quote: Originally posted by szczubelek on 2/13/2010steveymer
Why should I vote for you?

Because I earned it on the field, where I think my total results edge out staind's, and didn't lose it off the field by lying, betraying, or otherwise alienating players (at least as far as I know).

Quote: Originally posted by staindman on 2/13/2010Sz- Why should you vote for me?

I think because i played this game to win. Some might argue the moves I made didnt help me win. But at the time they were the best moves. Getting foolish's idol out helped alot of people out. As I said, Josh was considered the biggest threat by me. I play him tough but he usually beats me. Plus that trio of people stood in my way of actually winning and still do. I played the game to play the game and i didnt do anything personally or attacked anyone personally. I did it to get ahead. Some call me full of ****, some say i lied. Sure but hell I made the game fun and different. Otherwise it was just a cakewalk to the final four for the three and me. I helped people like you stay in the game sz. And as much as btown called me full of ****., he would have been gone alot earlier than what happened.

It would not have been a cakewalk for you 3 if I hadn't trusted you

the three staind are refering to are josh, soxy, and stevey