Quote: Originally Posted By oldresorter on 10/16/2009one clarification, I know I am in the minority here, but I also think the engine right now is working much better than it had been the last calendar year to year and a half

How long is 'right now' in your book OR? The last few HD seasons?

this is a whole lot less grand than other ideas, but if I could do one thing I would let us set up our first cycle of recruiting in advance - set it any time in prior say 24 hours and have it happen at the appointed hour - 6 pm or whatever

I think its silly that you can spend days - if you want - sorting and looking at recruits but that you cant right then decide to make a call or make 5 home visits or whatever you want

the first cycle isnt essential but it matters and it is just silly that one can only get that first salvo of action out by being on line in a narrow 2 hour window (that happens to hit dinner time, commuting time and the national anthem in many time zones

it does not happen all at once, and evidence in this game must be pieced together, i'll point to 4 unique signs to me things are working better:

LM / clone are winning a large % of the time with superior talent (2-5 preseason AA type players and deep rosters), yet combalt with deleware, thornight with memphis, and majresorter with clev state won with at best top 20 type teams all in the past 2 seasons, which means top coaching is winning without top talent, this had been lacking for a pretty long time?

on the oldresorter side of the evidence, my teams are starting to produce stat lines very much like the old days. plus settings like uptempo / slowdown / -2 / +2 are starting to act like I think they should logically - repeatably - somewhat dependably.

globally, I am seeing from teams other than my own evidence that things like uptempo or -2 are working correctly - i.e. when used against me

finally, i am seeing far less, remarkably less, of the 80-25 games, where the team with 25 is the better team?

perfect no, better IMO yes.

if you asked me why, my only answer would be the engine was designed for teams to be of a certain level, about 6-12 mos ago, when frosh got 850-900 good in one season, there were just too many 900 level players with 100 core level skills playing, and it essentially blew the engine up. now, the game has settled back into being played more with a couple of 850 guys and a team full of 650-750 guys, and the engine is working just how 'it used to'???

Quote: Originally Posted By fd343ny on 10/16/2009
this is a whole lot less grand than other ideas, but if I could do one thing I would let us set up our first cycle of recruiting in advance - set it any time in prior say 24 hours and have it happen at the appointed hour - 6 pm or whatever

I think its silly that you can spend days - if you want - sorting and looking at recruits but that you cant right then decide to make a call or make 5 home visits or whatever you want

the first cycle isnt essential but it matters and it is just silly that one can only get that first salvo of action out by being on line in a narrow 2 hour window (that happens to hit dinner time, commuting time and the national anthem in many time zones

i've sent this in as a ticket, was told recruiting is already too long, I told them coaches would gladly give up the last day for this option, CS was not too fired up about the idea, not sure why?

OR, why did they think giving a longer window before the 8 pm cycle would make recruiting longer? As I understand and agree with fd's idea, this wouldn't make recruiting any longer, it would simply allow coaches to preset the first cycle activity. I sometimes grow weary of obtuse CS responses.

i think they allow people to buy into the season all day long preceding recruiting, hence they would not allow coaches to start recruiting during the buy in time, although theoretically, they could let one get one's first cycle recruiting done during this time, I would encourage anyone / everyone to write a ticket up

Quote: Originally Posted By oldresorter on 10/16/2009i think they allow people to buy into the season all day long preceding recruiting, hence they would not allow coaches to start recruiting during the buy in time, although theoretically, they could let one get one's first cycle recruiting done during this time, I would encourage anyone / everyone to write a ticket u

You can buy in up until 4 (cst) when the sims start their recruiting, if a coach is buying in at 4 then he still has the same option as the rest of the coaches did.

It would take a bit of web site work to allow the first cycle of stuff to be pre-posted, but the concept would not change the cycle - just give coaches the choice to pre-load.....

On a side note, i know we have spoke of liking the idea of adding HS Jrs to the recruiting database, seble did tell me that that would be a very hard thing to do and doesn't see that ever happening.

I don't know if players ratings should improve very much from tourney games, but it ought to provide some kind of IQ boost for the experience of playing in the tournament. You always hear the talk about the tourney experience and how it helps mature players IRL

Lots of good stuff here, espcially not maxing out until Jr or Sr year, letting playing experience help dictate how fast a player develops in IQ and skills (in conjunction with work ethic) and also having post season experience help improve players since in RL people put a lot of emphasis on returning players "having been there before".

Certain things I love about this game but there are just some that blow my mind.

Three biggest beefs at this moment:

The way in which Sims recruit, The fact that most worlds have 50% occupancy at any level or lower and that when a recruit has limited potential in one area that essentially means they will never get better than where they are currently at.

The latter goes with what was said above in terms of letting coaches control more where a player improves (like the old days). I understand certain areas where players cant improve (ATH, Speed, BH for big men, REB for guards) but it's hard to believe if a D1 center recruit has a 61 rating for LP or Reb that even with limited potential they wouldn't improve any in four years. Kind of obsurd actually because even a halfway decent coach can improve a crappy player some. He doesn't have to become the best player in that respected area but should at least be able to improve some.

In terms of job openings, it seems like coaches are leaving season after season and HD doesn't react. They are still pretty strict wtih what it takes to get a coach into D1 from D2. Im not even eligable to move up in one world after 2 consecutive post-season appearances with one that ended with a top 25 RPI finish. Yet there are over 160 openings in the world in D1. I don't think they should fill it with just anyone but they need to get the level to at least 75%. There is a fun dynamic of coaching in a mid major that is in the back yard of a big 6. Use the big west as an example. Right now a decent program there only has to worry about competing against a couple other conference coaches and then worry about losing a top recruit to the pac 10. The dynamic of recruiting would change incredibly if the big west was 70% filled, or gasp, 100%. We never see mid majors fill up and that's on HD in my opinion. To further than, if the Big Sky, WCC, Mountain West and Big West were all filled (along with Pac 10 and Big 12) recruiting would be downright brutal and painful -the way it should be. As it stands now, everyone gets in on players while they can and pretty much glide until signing after the first day of cycles.

Piggy backing on that, if a coach builds up a great mid major to, say a B+ prestige and then leaves to a big 6 conference, chances are very small in any coach being able to get that job. Most coaches already in D1 good enough to get it are only looking at moving to a big 6 and likely have built up another mid major and that would be a complete lateral move for them. Take Pacific in Phelan. Bluejayscott built it up before moving up to The Big 12. Then Simmy took over and when recruiting started they went after three players - all in the top 14 overall. Needless to say they were all picked off by pac 10 coaches and the school filled 6 spots with moderate to average talent that nobody really wanted on Simmies 2nd cycle. So in a season or two they will drop to a C rating and then unless for some reason a coach picks them up (and again a lot of new coaches aren't qualified for a C prestige) then the school drops to a D+ prestige in 4 seasons time and then a new coach might just as well pick up any other school that is a D or D+ prestige since there is no benefit to Pacific at that time. Long rant short, make it easier for existing coaches who have decent seasons to be able to qualify for these top mid majors when they open up. Perhaps give them a one point prestige hit or something (B- prestige drops to C-). That way the school is still decent and isn't the powerhouse it was but isn't crippled by its own success either. Also, if a mid major conference fills up and constantly stands right at the top with big 6 schools then certain teams should be able to achieve A or even A+ prestige. I always see people saying this isn't RL but conferences are still held here to reflect RL which doesn't add up.

Quote: Originally Posted By dacj501 on 10/16/2009I don't know if players ratings should improve very much from tourney games, but it ought to provide some kind of IQ boost for the experience of playing in the tournament. You always hear the talk about the tourney experience and how it helps mature players IR

Especially since WIS made the change to have pt improve players IQs, so now what, players just stop learning after the CT?

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Just a little thing but I think its impact would be well received:

Once a recruit signs with your team he goes directly to the active roster and not into recruiting limbo. This way we can set depth charts, shooting distros, practice mins, etc. while we are killing time during that dreadful last day of recruiting. I signed all 4 of my recruits in Rupp on the 1st signings cycle. It seemed like an enternity waiting for rosters to update and recruiting to end.



jmo.