"Nah. It’s a better game now, more realistic, and more competitive. Scouting and recruiting is much more fun than it used to be."

So tell me how you couldn't accomplish this with one recruiting session at the end of the season. You are addressing all the other bells and whistles of 3.0 but ignoring the worst part of it...which is recruiting before the season ends and all the issues that created. Keep everything else but go back to one session.

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2018 5:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mbriese on 7/11/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/9/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
That's on WIS to define the "law", it's not for the coaches to decide on the "spirit of the law", because everyone is going to agree or disagree.

What is "unfair advantage"? Is there is a list somewhere? Define unfair. Is hanging off the Top 10 considering list, while having a scholarship offer on the table an unfair advantage?

Wait a sec - Wiz (the cheating cheater who cheated) is defending the flexibility of the fair play guidelines? Who in the world could have seen this coming?

I thought I told you to stop touching young boys, creepy little child molester.

You really are garbage. You have the deflection skills of a pyschopath/politician.

Posted by cardman17 on 7/11/2018 6:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2018 5:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mbriese on 7/11/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/9/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
That's on WIS to define the "law", it's not for the coaches to decide on the "spirit of the law", because everyone is going to agree or disagree.

What is "unfair advantage"? Is there is a list somewhere? Define unfair. Is hanging off the Top 10 considering list, while having a scholarship offer on the table an unfair advantage?

Wait a sec - Wiz (the cheating cheater who cheated) is defending the flexibility of the fair play guidelines? Who in the world could have seen this coming?

I thought I told you to stop touching young boys, creepy little child molester.

You really are garbage. You have the deflection skills of a pyschopath/politician.

lol. THIS is a great response. Simple yet effective. Not some lame insult about touching boys.

Posted by mullycj on 7/11/2018 5:22:00 PM (view original):
"Nah. It’s a better game now, more realistic, and more competitive. Scouting and recruiting is much more fun than it used to be."

So tell me how you couldn't accomplish this with one recruiting session at the end of the season. You are addressing all the other bells and whistles of 3.0 but ignoring the worst part of it...which is recruiting before the season ends and all the issues that created. Keep everything else but go back to one session.

1) Realistic. It’s how it works in real life, it’s how it should work in a simulation, unless there is a compelling gameplay issue (ie, tedious, or work-like).
2) Competitive. Layered recruiting, where recruits sign at different times, creates an environment where coaches have to prioritize. Shoving it all in one session after the season, when teams have all their openings known, will reduce competitiveness. Teams will be less likely to challenge UCLA with their 6 open scholarships, so we’re back to winners ball. No thanks.
3) It’s fun. I like recruiting during the season. It’s low stress, I can forget a few cycles and still come out with an ok class, I can challenge for guys I want, and have time to develop backup plans for later if I lose a roll.
4) No downside. “All the issues” amount to a big shrug, as far as I’m concerned. This thread is a good example. Yes, it’s probably a violation of FPG, but very little harm is caused. If it was intentional, it didn’t work very well, because only one of the recruits signed with the new team. And it’s not like a coach can do this every year, or every 3 years. You can only do it when you’re changing team, and moving down. It’s a pretty p!$$ poor way to try to game the system, to be honest. The last version of the game was *far* more gameable.

“I see using a DI budget to recruit for a future DIII school as a method of creating an unfair advantage and is outside the intent of what the programmer had in mind.”
Have to agree with this one.

“If you leave it at “gray” and “tricky”, you’re encouraging collusion, and inviting fair - and unfair - criticism of the product.”
Have to agree with that as well.

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):
Remember directing insults is also against fair play rules. Have a nice day guys :)

Mine wasn’t an insult, though. Remember how you cheated, denied it, then admitted it and still tried to defend it? I was referring to when that happened.

I still say a real easy EE fix is have the game tell you before recruiting one that "I have decided to turn pro!" in a private email setting, and GIVE THOSE TEAMS extra AP's up to the six player AP Max. Perhaps I am not considering the programming involved, just looking at a simple fix.

Posted by wvufan76 on 7/12/2018 9:45:00 AM (view original):
I still say a real easy EE fix is have the game tell you before recruiting one that "I have decided to turn pro!" in a private email setting, and GIVE THOSE TEAMS extra AP's up to the six player AP Max. Perhaps I am not considering the programming involved, just looking at a simple fix.

Stop using common sense, wvu. On this website, that's unbecoming.

Posted by mbriese on 7/12/2018 7:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 7/11/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):
Remember directing insults is also against fair play rules. Have a nice day guys :)

Mine wasn’t an insult, though. Remember how you cheated, denied it, then admitted it and still tried to defend it? I was referring to when that happened.

I was thinking the same thing but talking to a wall gets old.

https://www.12up.com/posts/6106237-5-star-recruit-has-no-idea-whether-to-choose-ohio-state-or-michigan/partners/41317

Posted by wvufan76 on 7/12/2018 9:45:00 AM (view original):
I still say a real easy EE fix is have the game tell you before recruiting one that "I have decided to turn pro!" in a private email setting, and GIVE THOSE TEAMS extra AP's up to the six player AP Max. Perhaps I am not considering the programming involved, just looking at a simple fix.

I feel like this fix has a drawback of giving teams with EE an unfair advantage of secret attention points. If you look at a team and see they have 1 senior and 2 walk-ons and are competing against them on the same recruits.... you will know exactly how much AP they are pushing with max on these early signers and yet they can ninja them right out from under you because they have secret AP in hand. I'm sure there is a better fix, but it hasn't been mentioned yet.

The fix is, as it’s always been, for coaches to adapt their gameplay and recruiting strategies to account for the volatility of elite commodities.

I’d support an early announcement, for planning purposes, with the understanding that it would require a programming change in how EE decisions are made. I would not support early disbursement of APs, *unless* the whole concept of attention is overhauled (ie, diminishing or negative returns of attention after actions have been unlocked). Losing an early entry should not increase a team’s “purchasing power”; the possibility of losing a player early is part of the cost of pursuing those players; it should hurt to lose a player early.

I can't believe there are people who still want to talk about 2.0. First of all, get over it already. Secondly, 3.0 is better. And it isn't even close.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/12/2018 11:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wvufan76 on 7/12/2018 9:45:00 AM (view original):
I still say a real easy EE fix is have the game tell you before recruiting one that "I have decided to turn pro!" in a private email setting, and GIVE THOSE TEAMS extra AP's up to the six player AP Max. Perhaps I am not considering the programming involved, just looking at a simple fix.

Stop using common sense, wvu. On this website, that's unbecoming.

That idea was mentioned dozens of times. Most people liked it.

Or just do as Mully suggests and go back to one session after the season. It clearly isnt helping the game attract or retain new users - which it was specifically designed to do. Derp.