DECREASE in recruit diversity :-( Topic

Posted by dalter on 6/26/2010 9:05:00 AM (view original):
Posted by a_in_the_b on 6/26/2010 6:35:00 AM (view original):
ANd SOrry, saying there are less types of players out there than before is just flat out not factually true.  YOu might personally not like the types out there, but that doesn't mean there are less of them.

True fact.
More unrealistic diversity while reducing realistic diversity is in fact what's happened.  True Fact.
6/29/2010 12:39 AM (edited)
Posted by a_in_the_b on 6/26/2010 6:13:00 AM (view original):
Um, no you didn't.  I gave ranges from deivision one two and three showing the same thing.

I did refute, quite simply by showing how none were viable, I'm sorry you cannot understand it.
6/29/2010 12:34 AM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 6/26/2010 6:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by arssanguinus on 6/21/2010 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Or for Phelan. . .

THe bottom thirty guards and the top 30 posts at:

D1:
35 - 49
62 - 42

d2:
11 - 36
50 - 36

d3:

17 - 46
41 - 22


 

 

For Knight:

25 - 46
60 - 43


11 - 36
50 - 37


25 - 40
43 - 22

THat doesn't show a "MAssive gap" - other than if you pick a guard at random, most of the time the guard WILL be quicker than the big.
 

"Bottom 30" and "top 30" is a pretty silly way of looking at things considering how the game cannot rank recruits worth anything.  Furthermore, ranges are misleading, the "massive gap" comes not from a range, but from a median.  Not to mention, as I've said over and over, SPD cannot be the only factor you're looking at when measuring this issue.  You have to look at VIABLE players with that SPD.  The issue is most of those higher range SPD guys have some other major flaw(lack of rebounding, ath, WE, etc), which makes them NOT viable.  I'm not sure how else to explain it than I did earlier in the thread.

You still have not addressed the basic issue, that there aren't enough fast VIABLE big men relative to the fast guards and WHY HD chose to reduce spd in big men?

What is most aggravating:
You're really going to sit there and seriously say that having no viable big men with a spd faster than 30  in D-II is realistic and correct?
 



6/29/2010 12:44 AM (edited)
THis has nothign to do with recruit ranks, it has to do with recruits sorted by speed.  The top thirty recruits in the speed category.  The bottom thirty recruits in speed category.  And no, I have no problem with those recruits STARTING in the thirties.  And yes, there aren't that many perfect basketball recruits anymore.  YOu actually have to plan your team around players that aren't strong in every Core area.  YOuw ill have some rebounding bigs, that are fast and can rebound but aren't great scorers. .etcetera.  The players that ARE good at everything. .well, amazingly enough,, like in real life, are rare.



And what people consider viable. .well, that can differ greatly.  Define "Viable"?    You seem to be really stuck on absolute benchmark numbers rather than relative benchmark numbers.



6/29/2010 1:16 PM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 6/29/2010 1:18:00 PM (view original):
THis has nothign to do with recruit ranks, it has to do with recruits sorted by speed.  The top thirty recruits in the speed category.  The bottom thirty recruits in speed category.  And no, I have no problem with those recruits STARTING in the thirties.  And yes, there aren't that many perfect basketball recruits anymore.  YOu actually have to plan your team around players that aren't strong in every Core area.  YOuw ill have some rebounding bigs, that are fast and can rebound but aren't great scorers. .etcetera.  The players that ARE good at everything. .well, amazingly enough,, like in real life, are rare.



And what people consider viable. .well, that can differ greatly.  Define "Viable"?    You seem to be really stuck on absolute benchmark numbers rather than relative benchmark numbers.



Viable for me, and this is considerably lower than it would have been in the old engine....40 ath/30spd/45 rbd. 

I don't expect to have big's high in LP or PER(for me those are bonus categories),  but I do expect to be able to find recruits that are high in ATH/SPD/RBD, and there aren't, which, as I've said all along, is the issue, primarily because of the nonsensical Greg Ostertag loving  SPD nerfing.

I'm willing to wait it out and see if HD has increased the # of high SPD potential bigs.  If they have, then this might balance out a little bit.  If they didn't, I'll probably stop playing unless I get a explanation for why the SPD reduction occurred. 

7/2/2010 3:41 AM (edited)
This probably isn't the #1 most bizarre thing I've seen someone get THIS worked up about, but it's in the top five.
7/2/2010 10:45 AM
I saw grantduck today at the reception
A glass of whine in his hand...
7/2/2010 10:57 AM (edited)
I think recruit generation has been horrible the past two seasons. I think hybrid recruits with potential is fine, but you can't do that at the expense of not having any true position players. There should be, and are in real life, true position players. Yes there are combo guards and forwards, but by and large a guy is what he is.The new engine has missed the boat in this regard to me.
11/8/2010 10:48 AM
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