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As someone who lives in a pretty big sports market and held season tickets to the Dolphins for 15 + years which is about half my life, Ill tell you that so long as salaries rise and the cost of attending games goes up what Mr. Polo is talking about will never end. We gave up our tickets to the Phins two years ago and its been the best decision weve made. Every Sunday we have 10-15 people over, BBQ, get wasted, watch all the games and keep up with the fantasy scoring for a fraction of the cost. We no longer have to deal with all the nonsense involved with going to the games including but not limited to travel, time, money, dumb *** people, stupid ownership that thinks we could give two craps about J-Lo and that douche Mark Anthony are part owners and waving to the crowd, and missing the entire day of football.

I actually had tickets to the Heat/Cavs game 3-4 weeks ago. Me and my two buddies drove to the arena and decided we didnt want to do this. I hopped outta the car while he made a U-turn and quickly sold our tickets for $200.00 each. jumped back in the car headed to South Beach where we stayed out until 4:00AM on a work night. We each went home with about $100.00 in our pocket as opposed to probably dropping another 300-400 between us at the game on parking, food liquor. Seriously who needs it.

The only events still worth going to are Orange Bowl because like Polo's relative we get the tickets for free; Marlins games, parking is free and you can get in for $10.00, and hockey and thats mostly because Im a Habs fan and its my only chance to see them play.

Once sports became HUGE business it killed the experience of going to the game. Its amazing to me that the NFL thinks the economy is the reason teams arent selling out...Its like no its because my stupid tickets which cost $30.00 each 8 years ago now cost $100.00 and your forcing me to pay a licensing fee by buying two worthless preseason games a year.

Rant over. :)
12/10/2009 2:05 PM
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after all i read, i would still even be happy with a four team +1 playoff. the ncaa can't say much about that.

kids won't miss as much class (lol - for the ones who attend) since only 2 weeks would be needed.

each of the 3 playoff games could still be a bowl game. the teams out of this playoff would still play in bowls.

the bowls could be rotated so every bowl (of the medium to bigger ones) will get a chance to host the 3 playoff games.

if only the big 10 and pac 10 would buy in. i heard the sec and big east commissioners and school ADs are for a playoff system. i heard it on a ncaa football podcast last season w/ ivan maisel and beano cook. fat chance of this happening as the big 10 won't even play a championship game.

the confs will still get their $.

less chance of injuries should occur w/ less playoff games played by the top 4 seeds. more playoff games would mean more chance of injuries for kids (especially the nfl draft candidates).

oh well...
12/11/2009 1:58 PM
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If they did it without the Pac-10 and Big 10...just once....those conferences would give in
12/12/2009 4:03 AM
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I want to see a playoff, as I have stated before. What I like is the people who think it is needed. As if something is wrong now. Viewership for college football is higher than its ever been. The NCAA is going to abide by the "if it ain't broke..." credo. We can complain and express our frustration all we want, but they have their feet dug in the sand.
12/12/2009 8:06 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By alblack56 on 12/12/2009
If they did it without the Pac-10 and Big 10...just once....those conferences would give in
Not sure I agree with this. It makes sense to us, but these conferences can be stubborn and still don't have a conference playoff.

Also remember the Rose Bowl still negotiates it's television contract separate from the other BCS games. I believe that currently is $30 million a year with ABC. That's 50% higher than the other BCS games have with Fox.

So on one hand we could have $80 million (plus all the current secondary bowls) divided by teams outside the BigTen/Pac 10. And $30 million divided within the BigTen/Pac 10 (plus their secondary bowl appearances).
12/12/2009 9:07 AM
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12/12/2009 9:29 AM
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LOL... So now we are talking about seceeding from the union? The Civil War of the NCAA. I kinda like the idea though.
12/12/2009 9:38 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By antonsirius on 12/12/2009

I think the Rose Bowl would lose a lot of TV negotiating leverage if they suddenly found themselves hosting the two loser conferences who have voluntarily given up their shot at a National Champion...
But they'd have difficulty calling it a National Championship if they didn't include 2 of the 4 historically premier conferences. Back where we were ten years ago.

Sure the Rose Bowl matchup is no comparision this year with Oregon-Ohio State, but I think over the past few seasons a USC-Ohio State matchup would have drawn as much interest as a Big 12 - SEC matchup.

Actually looking back prior to last season, either Ohio State or USC were #1 rated in the BCS rankings four seasons in a row.
12/12/2009 11:44 AM
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The NCAA Football Champion comes from D1-AA every year. D1-A has never had one. They will never have one until they have a playoff.

Its the only Division of sports in America that does not crown a true champion. They claim to have a champion through computer formulas and extremely biased public opinion.

It is the largest achievement of Socialism in sports in our country. Its un-American. America promotes competition in a fair marketplace. The BCS is closer to a beauty pageant than a sporting competition.
12/12/2009 12:14 PM
antonsirius
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Quote: Originally posted by Iguana1 on 12/12/2009But they'd have difficulty calling it a National Championship if they didn't include 2 of the 4 historically premier conferences.

They call it a National Championship now even though two teams with legitimate cases for a shot at that title have no chance at it.

The NCAA would have no difficulty calling a playoff winner the National Champ even if two big conferences themselves on the outside of the process.
12/12/2009 12:52 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By mykids_31206 on 12/12/2009
The NCAA Football Champion comes from D1-AA every year. D1-A has never had one. They will never have one until they have a playoff.

Its the only Division of sports in America that does not crown a true champion. They claim to have a champion through computer formulas and extremely biased public opinion.

It is the largest achievement of Socialism in sports in our country. Its un-American. America promotes competition in a fair marketplace. The BCS is closer to a beauty pageant than a sporting competition.



america promotes the rich getting richer. more an oligarchy than a democracy. thus the bcs.
12/12/2009 1:11 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by mrpolo09 on 12/06/2009It doesn't matter how bad the Pac10 sucked. Boise St is still undefeated.

The BCS+1 system was proposed to eliminate the undefeated team from being snubbed. Well, if it was in place this year it would have done exactly what it was instilled to prevent. Snub an undefeated team.

There are 120 Division I football teams. There will NEVER be a system that fairly decides one champion.

And what happens when there's only 2 undefeated teams in a season? Then you're going to have a 1 (or more) loss team play for the Championship? They got the right 2 teams to play for the title...just as they almost always do. A heck of a lot more often than every other sport, anyway.
12/12/2009 2:46 PM
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Want to make every game count? Ditch the season and just play a single-elimination tournament, with teams placed into the bracket completely at random. You haven't seen crazy-motivated players like you'd get with this system - lose once, GO HOME. And think of the fun if you ended up with opening-round pairings like Alabama versus Ohio State or USC versus Florida!

Plus, half the teams in the country would finish the season with an 0-1 record. Gotta like it, LOL.

OK, I am only kidding - but I do think that if the regular season needs to be shortened to implement a REAL play-off system, then it would be well worth the trade.
12/12/2009 4:27 PM
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WTF! i made three posts between 2:15 and 2:30pm on 12/10/09. They are now gone!

i could give a sh*t (as most of you) about what was said in those posts. But where the f**k did they go?? Admin goes around deleting random posts?!?

Now that is moronic. and totally wrong.
12/12/2009 4:38 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By udm_mike on 12/12/2009
Quote: Originally posted by mrpolo09 on 12/06/2009 It doesn't matter how bad the Pac10 sucked. Boise St is still undefeated.

The BCS+1 system was proposed to eliminate the undefeated team from being snubbed. Well, if it was in place this year it would have done exactly what it was instilled to prevent. Snub an undefeated team.

There are 120 Division I football teams. There will NEVER be a system that fairly decides one champion.

And what happens when there's only 2 undefeated teams in a season? Then you're going to have a 1 (or more) loss team play for the Championship? They got the right 2 teams to play for the title...just as they almost always do. A heck of a lot more often than every other sport, anyway
Whether I agree or not, that is opinion, not fact.
12/12/2009 7:10 PM
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