Round 2 Standings, 2018 Topic

Congrats ozo. You put up with a lot in running the tournament this year and it is appreciated.
2/18/2019 10:07 PM
Congrats. A well deserved win.
2/18/2019 11:33 PM
Congrats ozo!
2/19/2019 7:46 AM
Thanks guys!
2/19/2019 6:07 PM
Right now two WS are set, with one other team through.

90M: ozomatli vs. discodemo
100M: crystalao vs. newarkwilder
140M: ozomatli vs. ??? (wink0094 or crystalao)
2/19/2019 6:08 PM
Btw -- for the 2019 tournament, we will test a new playoff point system at least in Round 1. The motivation of this change is to reduce the strategy of optimizing for LDS wins, while not removing the potential to move up via playoff bonus points. The two options I'm considering:

A) Remove 5 point bonuses for making the playoffs, winning the LDS, and winning the LCS. Increase bonus for winning the WS to 10 points. This would reduce the average points per team to somewhere around 4, and the WS winner would be lowered to 21. This option satisfies the motivation for this change.
B) Do everything from option A, but also subtract 1 point per playoff loss. Losing a series would result in 0 points (i.e. you couldn't go negative). This would reduce the average points per team to somewhere around 3, and the WS winner would also be 21. This option additionally increases the importance of every game.

Generally, I'm of the mindset to change one thing at a time rather than multiple, so I'm leaning towards Option A, but do think that B could add something totally new to the tournament. Feel free to add any thoughts before I sit on it for a few months.
2/19/2019 6:43 PM
Posted by ozomatli on 2/19/2019 6:44:00 PM (view original):
Btw -- for the 2019 tournament, we will test a new playoff point system at least in Round 1. The motivation of this change is to reduce the strategy of optimizing for LDS wins, while not removing the potential to move up via playoff bonus points. The two options I'm considering:

A) Remove 5 point bonuses for making the playoffs, winning the LDS, and winning the LCS. Increase bonus for winning the WS to 10 points. This would reduce the average points per team to somewhere around 4, and the WS winner would be lowered to 21. This option satisfies the motivation for this change.
B) Do everything from option A, but also subtract 1 point per playoff loss. Losing a series would result in 0 points (i.e. you couldn't go negative). This would reduce the average points per team to somewhere around 3, and the WS winner would also be 21. This option additionally increases the importance of every game.

Generally, I'm of the mindset to change one thing at a time rather than multiple, so I'm leaning towards Option A, but do think that B could add something totally new to the tournament. Feel free to add any thoughts before I sit on it for a few months.
Can you provide a comparison of the 2018 results with what they would be under options A or B? That way we can see what it would mean with more perspective.
2/19/2019 6:47 PM
Good call. Will take some time but can probably do tonight or tomorrow
2/19/2019 6:54 PM
Using Option A increases the correlation between Round 1 Tournament Rank and Tournament Pre Rank from .735 to .750. I can only measure Option B with Round 2 stats, so I will do so after the playoffs are complete.


Here's a rough table ranked by Option A Overall Rank

Rank Owner Points
Pre Season Orig. Playoff Orig. Overall Option A Playoff Option A Overall Season Orig. Playoffs Option A Playoffs Penalty Option A Total Orig. Total
4 1 2 1 3 1 ozomatli 594 102 52 646 696
1 2 1 2 1 2 brianjw 579 114 59 638 693
8 7 3 3 2 3 jfranco77 564 100 55 619 664
6 3 8 6 9 4 buddhagamer 578 71 31 609 649
2 3 13 8 12 5 discodemo 578 59 29 607 637
7 5 6 5 6 6 mildnhazy 566 85 40 606 651
5 8 5 7 4 7 jbohrman 562 86 41 603 648
9 9 4 4 4 8 jmissirlis 561 96 41 602 657
32 6 10 9 10 9 wink0094 565 65 30 595 630
17 12 7 10 8 10 crystalao 546 75 35 581 621
16 10 17 12 14 11 justinlee_24 549 43 23 572 592
10 14 9 11 7 12 dougpalm 528 67 37 565 595
28 10 23 14 23 13 mpitt76 549 34 9 558 583
3 13 16 13 19 14 rbow923 534 51 16 550 585
46 32 20 33 14 15 sprintracer 493 38 23 23 539 508
24 22 21 23 16 16 newarkwilder 506 37 22 2 530 541
44 21 14 15 17 17 Humdogs 509 55 20 529 564
13 15 28 19 33 18 dippedncrack / schwarze 523 25 5 528 548
35 18 22 17 22 19 odalisgagne 515 36 11 526 551
20 17 26 22 23 20 mdc2276 516 29 9 525 545
22 22 15 16 18 21 redcped 506 53 18 524 559
30 16 33 24 35 22 bothways 519 19 4 523 538
33 19 31 25 30 23 ejstockman 514 21 6 520 535
27 38 12 20 10 24 magicdreamer 487 60 30 517 547
40 26 17 21 20 25 Jdh34 503 43 13 516 546
41 19 42 28 41 25 cubbies84 514 12 2 516 526
50 22 27 26 28 27 mick33 506 28 8 514 534
26 38 11 17 13 28 Donburgh 487 64 24 511 551
12 25 33 29 35 29 bighooze 504 19 4 508 523
11 27 39 30 33 30 shaybee 502 15 5 507 517
36 32 40 37 39 31 jjgreen14 493 13 3 6 502 500
38 35 17 27 20 31 donaldjtrump 489 43 13 502 532
48 28 33 30 35 31 thehuseman 498 19 4 502 517
29 29 55 41 51 34 ledfoot 496 0 0 4 500 492
23 35 37 34 30 35 cstrohmier 489 16 6 495 505
51 30 31 32 44 35 jetscanes 494 21 1 495 515
39 30 52 38 51 37 NebHusker 494 5 0 494 499
18 40 37 35 30 38 mllama54 486 16 6 492 502
49 34 46 39 44 39 toddcommish 490 6 1 491 496
31 37 46 40 44 40 frank_drebin 488 6 1 489 494
25 41 55 44 51 41 tigerrott 485 0 0 485 485
66 46 23 36 23 42 npg32433 468 34 9 1 478 501
60 42 55 47 51 43 thebubbaq 475 0 0 475 475
53 45 42 45 41 44 sjh0825 472 12 2 474 484
19 43 55 50 51 45 markeking 473 0 0 473 473
59 43 44 46 51 45 hurst47 473 10 0 473 483
47 50 29 43 23 47 The Taint 462 24 9 471 486
15 46 46 49 44 48 homiealiens 468 6 1 469 474
21 46 55 53 51 49 calhoop 468 0 0 468 468
65 54 25 42 23 50 Pebo 457 30 9 466 487
54 50 40 47 39 51 zlionsfan 462 13 3 465 475
61 49 46 52 44 51 happyhours 464 6 1 465 470
63 52 52 55 51 53 mars2010 460 5 0 460 465
56 53 55 56 51 54 thejuice6 459 0 0 459 459
37 55 55 58 51 55 kyleb63 456 0 0 456 456
67 60 30 51 28 55 garmansouth 448 23 8 456 471
55 56 55 60 51 57 nordawg 454 0 0 454 454
68 57 46 57 44 58 midknight 452 6 1 453 458
43 60 33 54 35 59 Jtpsops 448 19 4 452 467
14 58 46 59 44 60 Fusion27s 449 6 1 450 455
42 58 55 63 51 61 Chisock 449 0 0 449 449
34 62 52 61 51 62 beauchamp 447 5 0 447 452
57 64 45 62 41 63 gigrant 443 7 2 445 450
62 63 55 64 51 64 sionnach99 444 0 0 444 444
52 65 55 65 51 65 trd3 426 0 0 426 426
64 66 55 66 51 66 loyalcanuck 423 0 0 423 423
45 67 55 67 51 67 DarthDurron 416 0 0 416 416
58 68 55 68 51 68 scottharra 415 0 0 415 415
71 69 55 69 51 69 scthallfan 400 0 0 400 400
69 70 55 70 51 70 deathdealer 398 0 0 398 398
72 71 55 71 51 71 spoonfed 312 0 0 312 312
70 72 55 72 51 72 tridentric 302 0 0 302 302
2/19/2019 11:40 PM
sprintracer's ranking is wrong (accidentally added his penalty rather than subtracting in the Option A Total column).

Only change for Round 2 would have been that Donburgh would have been out and cubbies84 would have been in
2/19/2019 11:45 PM
70M: (ozomatli or rbow923) vs. (discodemo or brianjw)
90M: ozomatli vs. discodemo
100M: crystalao vs. newarkwilder
110M: discodemo vs. ??? (ozomatli or buddhagamer)
130M: wink0094 vs. rbow923
140M: ozomatli vs. wink0094

Crazy that a maximum of 8 owners will be making up the 12 World Series spots, potentially as few as 6 owners.
2/20/2019 6:15 PM
I actually don't know if two owners have ever gone head-to-head in 3 World Series in the same year before, like disco and I have a chance to.
2/20/2019 6:17 PM
Also, shoutout to discodemo. He has finished in the Top 6 for what will now be 8 consecutive tournaments (with seven Top 5s). I believe he has the second highest average finish ever for people with 3 or more appearances (WaitNSee being #1, of course, after winning all three times he entered). Maybe next year luck will be on his side and he will finally and deservedly take home a title.
2/20/2019 7:46 PM
Posted by ozomatli on 2/19/2019 11:45:00 PM (view original):
sprintracer's ranking is wrong (accidentally added his penalty rather than subtracting in the Option A Total column).

Only change for Round 2 would have been that Donburgh would have been out and cubbies84 would have been in
Can we call it "The Donburgh Rule"?
2/20/2019 9:51 PM
I would have fallen a lot with the rule change, too. It seems to reduce the value of a good playoff run.
2/21/2019 12:02 AM
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