patsrule, remember that before you try to pull a player down you should first call that player to see if you get the backup message. Depending on prestige you may or may not be a backup option for the player. There really is not easy rule of thumb to be able to tell if you will be able to pull a player down or not, so call them first. If you are a backup option for them you can pull them down. A scholly offer and 10 scouting trips should the trick for most pulldown targets, but at B+ a few pulldowns might take 12-14 scouting trips.