Posted by jdno on 4/16/2013 11:31:00 PM (view original):
dacj, CS's response is a little nebuluous b/c it seems (to me at least) he's answering your question as if you never resent the inform of R/S.  His statement about never accepting one w/o a WE drop is implying you didn't try to reinform him of R/S.  During recruiting if he doesn't want to take the R/S he would just un-consider you.  I take it to mean he's back to his neutral state, so if you reinform him of R/S and he eventually signs with you then he would take the R/S w/o a WE hit.

definitely this. if you think about it dac, i answered you the exact same way. you ask, if you redshirt and no redshirt to clear promises, will he take a redshirt? no, not without a work ethic drop. thats a different question than, if you redshirt and no redshirt, can you change your mind and inform of redshirt later on in recruiting? that may be what you meant, but IMO most readers dont take it that way - they took it the way seble and i took it. you CAN change your mind and inform of redshirt later in recruiting, thats not a question to me, im 100% positive.

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Posted by grecianfox on 4/16/2013 1:38:00 PM (view original):
Not sure I like this, I have offered starts/minutes before at the early stages of a battle and then withdrawn to see how things play out as recruiting continues. I like to be able to reconsider my kneejerk reactions.

i concur with this. i think it was a small (very small) part of recruiting strategy that has been removed. recruiting needs more options, not less.

This strategy still exists, but you have to pay...

If you inform of a RS, you'll have to inform of non-RS to be able to withdraw that.

If you inform of a non-RS, you'll have to re-RS him (and pay).

If you promise starts and minutes, you'll have to RS, then un-RS, him, and pay.

The real question is, can you do these actions in the same cycle (if, as happens, you change your mind ASAP)?

yeah you can do them all together. what do you mean, and pay? if you put a redshirt on, you have to pay, if the recruit doesnt like it. if you use redshirt/no redshirt to clear promises, i think the net impact of all the promise/redshirt related **** is 0.

followup question: It is my understanding that if you use the inform of no-redshirt button that the kid will NEVER take a redshirt, even if you re-inform. Is this true/still true? If so...

true. net impact, i meant on considering credit. so if people were using extra effort to overcome the withdrawl, so they could still redshirt, they lost that option (sorry!). but im not sure the effort it takes to overcome the withdrawl was any less than to overcome a straight-up redshirt. does anyone know?

whoops, i read your question wrong dac. disregard this and corresponding parts of other posts. my bad, i thought you were saying you couldnt redshirt during recruiting - whoops! you definitely can re-inform. sorry about that

I think the most important issue is they appear to have updated the icons associated with recruiting actions.  We have a whole new, fresh feel!

Then again, maybe I'm crazy. But I swear those icons look new to me.

For further clarification I sought an update from CS. It is the LAST in form action that is in effect, therefore, if you inform of redshirt to clear promises, then inform of no redshirt, but later decide you wish to redshirt the player and choose to inform of redshirt once again, he WILL accept the redshirt with no WE drop (assuming of course you compensate for the negative value of the inform of redshirt and still sign him - a different issue)