Knowledge base (#851), to which I was directed after complaining about a WE drop (from 33 to 20) when I sat a freshman with a promised start for 5 games when he was below 80% health. :

If a player was promised a starting spot or minutes, he will expect to play in any game where he's above 60% health. At that point, he's technically able to play in a game, and so he will expect to do so. Playing while less than 100% health does not increase the odds of further injury, it just decreases the player's effectiveness.

Report from my trainer after another injury: He could probably play but he'd be at 60%. 

My recommendation would be to sit him and let's see how he recovers. Putting him out there now could lead to another injury and I'm not even sure how effective he'd be.


So basically players are programmed to get really upset if you follow the trainer's advice? This seems very counterintuitive and especially problematic for newer players who take the trainer's word for it (aside: my first season of HD, I got one of those "I think we better look elsewhere, he seemed moderately interested at best" messages, which means "go recruit this player right now!" and interpreted it to mean "we better look elsewhere." It's easy enough to figure out what the messages mean once you've gotten a few of them, but it was initially frustrating that the assistant coach was programmed to be so misleading). 

Is this idiotic, or am I just complaining about nothing? Or is this something that's common knowledge that I overlooked somehow. 

there is an issue here - there was discussion with admin on the forum about this maybe two years ago.....someday this disconnect may get fixed.  Or maybe it is a feature and not a bug - maybe college kids want to play even when the trainer says it isnt a good idea.....

For some reason, I had in my head when I joined last year that 80% was the key number for when they would demand their starts again. Did that used to be the number, or was I pulling it out of my ***? 

I think 80 may have been the old forum fact - and 60 may be the reality that was discovered....I get confused by this.....

(aside: my first season of HD, I got one of those "I think we better look elsewhere, he seemed moderately interested at best" messages, which means "go recruit this player right now!" and interpreted it to mean "we better look elsewhere." It's easy enough to figure out what the messages mean once you've gotten a few of them, but it was initially frustrating that the assistant coach was programmed to be so misleading). 

My first season in D2 I got the recruiting message from my assistant that asks if I can "do " something to convince the player, so I thought that meant I should use the illegal gifts (I sent him a throwback jersey). Of course I got caught, and I was put on probation for a season... I always thought that was kind of bs too...

Update: I stumbled across an old article in the knowledge base saying that 80% is the key number for whether they'd demand their starts again. I reopened the ticket, and CS told me that the knowledge base was in error (had not been updated after a tweak to the injury/return logic) and they would fix it. I think I would've rather them give my guy a few points of work ethic, but at least they're not leaving the knowledge base in error (anymore). 

Posted by dacj501 on 6/4/2013 3:22:00 AM (view original):

(aside: my first season of HD, I got one of those "I think we better look elsewhere, he seemed moderately interested at best" messages, which means "go recruit this player right now!" and interpreted it to mean "we better look elsewhere." It's easy enough to figure out what the messages mean once you've gotten a few of them, but it was initially frustrating that the assistant coach was programmed to be so misleading). 

My first season in D2 I got the recruiting message from my assistant that asks if I can "do " something to convince the player, so I thought that meant I should use the illegal gifts (I sent him a throwback jersey). Of course I got caught, and I was put on probation for a season... I always thought that was kind of bs too...

+1. I did the same thing.