Which one of these guys is currently a better post defender and/or rebounder? This is BCS D1 team.




P1 P2

63 ATH 82
20 SPD 62
83 REB 71
83 DEF 89
73 BLK 40
32 LP 27
13 PER 55
16 BH 41
38 PASS 22
C+ IQ B


I know that neither are ideal ( or even good, or even average). We run a 3-2 zone with the other post player being 90ish in ATH/REB/DEF and a 70 BLK.

In a nut shell it becomes is the 20 points points in ATH, 6 in DEF and better IQ worth the 12 points in REB and 33 points in block?

I like #2 better as an overall player, and it's not close. Purely as a post defender/rebounder, they seem about equal to me. 

Should a speed advantage that large be ignored?  Honest question.

For rebounding? Yes. Speed plays no role in that equation.

For post defense? The speed component is minimal up until the highest level of D1 when the offensive post players start having enough spd and per that it effects the scoring equation. Even then, it's significantly less valuable than DEF, ATH, and BLK

I think I read once that SPD plays a role when determining blocked shots. I am not positive about this and I don't remember where I read it.

Posted by carson333 on 7/9/2014 11:00:00 AM (view original):
I think I read once that SPD plays a role when determining blocked shots. I am not positive about this and I don't remember where I read it.

Maybe for transition shot-blocks?

I just looked at the shot block leaders in Knight. There seemed to be no correlation between speed and block shots.

Now, with that being said, blocks work weird.

First of all, the SHOT BLOCK rating is used to decide if the FGA is successful. Many people think of this as an "altered shot".

Then, on ALL READY MISSED SHOTS, the game decides if a block occurs. It then decides who blocked the shot.

In theory, the only real benefit of a block is that the offense doesn't have an opportunity to get an offensive rebound.

Well, except that happens all the time...

13:55	Walter Ross's fadeaway is rejected by Earl Harrison	8-17
13:53	The offensive rebound goes to Alex Matthes	8-17
13:37	Philip Keating scores on a runner from the right block

Or is that why you said, "in theory"?

...and don't even get me started about tip-ins off blocks.  Or offensive rebounds/tip-ins by the guy who just took a fadeaway outside the lane.

(Yes, I know that's just snippets of text "matched" with results generated by the engine, and aren't going to be perfect.  There's just some stuff that ought to be easy to clean up - don't use "x" for "phrase 2" if "phrase 1" contains "fadeaway", etc.)

player 2. 

Player 1 might be better defensively in the zone though. doesn't have to move as much, and can block a bit better. C+ to a B IQ is huge though. 

Posted by llamanunts on 7/9/2014 12:57:00 PM (view original):
Well, except that happens all the time...

13:55	Walter Ross's fadeaway is rejected by Earl Harrison	8-17
13:53	The offensive rebound goes to Alex Matthes	8-17
13:37	Philip Keating scores on a runner from the right block

Or is that why you said, "in theory"?

Never saw that before. I guess that theory is hogwash!

I just submitted this ticket.

Couple questions on shot blocking:

1. The defenders shot block score is used in the equation that determines if the FG is successful right?

2. Are blocks determined after the FGA is determined to be unsuccessful?

3. If so, what is the benefit of "blocking a shot" does the defense have a better chance of gaining the rebound?

Just wondering if you heard back on that ticket and what the response was.

7/11/2014 9:51 AM Trentonjoe
Couple questions on shot blocking:

1. The defenders shot block score is used in the equation that determines if the FG is successful right?

2. Are blocks determined after the FGA is determined to be unsuccessful?

3. If so, what is the benefit of "blocking a shot" does the defense have a better chance of gaining the rebound?

Thanks
7/14/2014 10:18 AM Customer Support
1. Yes

2. Yes

3. There's no further benefit as far as the result of the play at that point. The benefit in having shot blockers comes from affecting FG%.